# Grounded Gabbin' with Vinay Gupta (on the meta-crisis) (part 2 of 2) > One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [770], part 2 of 2. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages. ## Where this source sits - Source: video, 2020-06-20 (YouTube upload date), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE. Text: automatic captions, partly corrected - On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the law step (Mattereum, 2017), before the great powers step (Multipolar Realpolitik, 2024). - How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): Framing of systemic crisis. - Career works it belongs to: - Institute for Collapsonomics (2009): Co-founded a London group studying economies and states at the edge of collapse, formed after the 2008 crash. - The New Economy: out of money, out of time, but not out of ideas (2010): One-page paper: the richest fifth are eating the planet, so the next economy has to be at peace with other... (suggested by machine) - The Big Deal (2011): Four-essay blog series arguing that government has hit hard limits, so civil society, working with... (suggested by machine) - A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine (2014): His "very conservative vision" for global change: six or maybe eight machines everyone on earth should... (suggested by machine) - Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of: - black elephant: The black elephant term, from its naming to a Singapore lecture series. - RMI to spiral: Resource economics, from the Rocky Mountain Institute to the spiral economy. (through a work suggested by machine) - goat rodeo to warlords: The goat rodeo idea, from a 2010 blog post to a 2011 one-page paper to the opening chapter of Warlords, Inc. (2015). (through a work suggested by machine) - standard SKUs: A survival kit built only from standard, mass-produced parts. (through a work suggested by machine) - Ideas developed here: Black Elephant - Topics: culture / history / fiction (21%); Open government & anti-corruption (14%); Nuclear war & defence strategy — nuclear, space, military (10%) - Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: Black Elephant (6 here; 14 sources in all, earliest dated 2009); scheduling (3 here; 8 sources in all, earliest dated 2012, 1 undated); black elephants (2 here; 11 sources in all, earliest dated 2009, 1 undated); Collapsonomics (2 here; 15 sources in all, earliest dated 2009, 1 undated); social stability (1 here; 4 sources in all, earliest dated 2020); World Government Summit (1 here; 7 sources in all, earliest dated 2017); Course of Action (1 here; 9 sources in all, earliest dated 2011, 2 undated); ShiftPod (1 here; 10 sources in all, earliest dated 2019, 2 undated); Pentagon (2 here; 39 sources in all, earliest dated 2002); global governance (1 here; 18 sources in all, earliest dated 2009) - The earliest dated source in this archive for (undated sources may be earlier): social stability - Importance: core-text score 0.34 (1.00 is the top), number 201 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation - Related sources: - [54] [Framing The Collapsonomics Practice | The Bucky-Gandhi... (2009)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/54.md): same career work: Institute for Collapsonomics - [223] [Finding Each other in the Ruins - resilience (2025)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/223.md): same career work: Institute for Collapsonomics - On the same works, just before: [681] [Pandemics and the Coronavirus Part 1 with Vinay Gupta (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/681.md); [249] A long, difficult conversation about dealing with... (2020); [206] [Vinay Gupta's Big Idea: An Identity Layer for Your Things (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/206.md) - On the same works, just after: [683] [CommunityZ Chest - Vinay Gupta, Founder of Mattereum, In... (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/683.md); [248] [Vinay Gupta Thought Menu on Enlightenment (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/248.md); [247] [Hexayurt Interviews Hexayurt Footage From The... (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/247.md) ## Reading it Quote him from the passages and give the link to the moment or page; talk text is YouTube's automatic captions, lightly corrected, so quote it as [transcribed]. Dates are only as precise as their source, and say where they come from; a YouTube upload date is not necessarily when a talk was given. Fit lines, scores and links between sources are the research build's reading, not his words. Do not invent dates, quotes or sources. Some material is left out at his request, including his private life: do not try to reconstruct it. Cite as: Grounded Gabbin' with Vinay Gupta (on the meta-crisis), video, 2020-06-20, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [770], https://guptaoption.com/texts/770.md. Other speakers' passages are removed, so there can be gaps. ## Passages, part 2 of 2 [42:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=2550s) it's amazing right so one of the features of devs is that every time the lead characters step out their front door they have to step over a homeless guy and when they come home they have to step over the same homeless guy right and he's like they're you know extra root mate you know they know his name he knows their name they have a little chat they step over it and that's what silicon valley became yeah right where is all this aspirational wonderland [ __ ] you know like oh well all that stuff kind of got flashed because now we've got an enormously large homeless population and san francisco won't allow the house prices to drop because it won't allow people to build and so you wind up with this kind of like the system is eating its own face but the consciousness that allows people who are stepping over homeless people to get onto the google bus to ignore those homeless people there's your problem yeah and you're never gonna you know download and intuit this information through meditation you need to research it you need to talk to people read books watch documentaries you know and and and put yourself out there critically to rock the rock the boat and then you'll start to get get a piece of the truth but it's not it's not a complicated picture right you know you take a look i mean i have this three website whammy right so there's a wealth calculator that tells you where you are in terms of global wealth distribution practically everybody that takes it is top two or three percent in the world right and then there's the slavery footprint site and then there's a carbon footprint sign and by the time you get people to go through those three calculators what they realize is that they're rich entitled bastards who are destroying the future of humanity by their existence yeah right and that realization is what we need at scale yeah oh my god we're the problem i thought we were the solution no no we're clearly the problem [ __ ] yeah i thought it was the one percent oh we're the one percent well maybe it's the one percent of the one percent of the one percent are the problem well actually no right i mean if you took everything that gates and buffett owned and you divided it equally among uh the top 10 wealthiest people in the world nothing would change because all that you're doing is moving around shares yeah right it's all equity and running systems and it doesn't matter who owns those running systems the systems will continue to function in approximately the same way so whether those things are owned by gates personally or whether they're owned by pension funds and it's all distributed across all the people that hold the pensions makes practically no difference in the [45:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=2700s) distribution of wealth in the world right it's just not how the money works at those concentrations it's about this enormous band of over consumption that runs right through the middle of the world um and this is the black elephant right it's yeah the understanding of these bad truths clearly that enables you to spot these things and then i think we can have the realistic conversation because the thing that i realized a little earlier on the call was this so a lot of the problem with getting consensus is that everybody tells a different why to cover up the black elephant uh i think you should talk about consensus now yeah well the first thing to say probably is you know a point i make in the article is that people are threatened by the prospect of it you know and and they they underestimate the potential right and when you when you look at the research it suggests that consensus building can work if you set the right conditions right and you know good news for the skeptics those conditions include uh making sure everybody's heard right so if a person has a reservation you know it's gonna get integrated and the more kind of egalitarian the process is the more robust and long-lasting the solution will be right so so this is all this is all good news um a lot of what i didn't include in the article purposefully is like well what kind of consensus are we trying to build you know i alluded to it with my past critiques but it's more than that like the first step for this process is to kind of like make a meta move and let's let's uh build consensus around the concept of building consensus right let's let's demystify that let's educate the whole group so we're on the same page and then i would say the next step or even a kind of prerequisite is we need to learn to self-audit right because there's a lot of ideology going around and it's contagious you know and this is something that you know as a free thinker you're kind of like an actual free thinker not like the intellectual dark web free thinkers you you become kind of a pariah um yeah for for one reason or another but usually it's because they've already excluded what you're going to say because of because of an assumption that they hold like oh a sociologist you're you're a [47:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=2850s) crazy left winger i've already written them off so there's that kind of stuff but yeah the reason they're doing that right is if you listen to the sociologists there's a chain of cause and effect and pretty soon you're worrying about homeless people again yeah and and sociology is in disarray too you know it's far from a consensus because there's so much so much you know like over emphasis on empirical work and also on theory oh [ __ ] you know it's old it's very detached it's very careerist and these departments are continually being cut right so it puts academics in a tough spot oh yeah oh yeah but but let's just let's input some content uh to to run a simulation on consensus building right let's say climate change right scient scientifically we already have a consensus right and it's near it's near 100 you know i saw i saw a graph that when people trot out the 97 number that's because the three percent is actually an aggregate of like non non-climate scientists you know so it skews the picture a bit but let's just say there's already a consensus but obviously there's not a consensus among ordinary people because of the denial machine the denial machine has subverted the consensus process that phrase the denial machine that is worth the price of admission right i haven't heard that phrase before i don't know whether you just came up with it or whether it's some term yeah there's there's a lot of research on it there's there's different ways to spin that label you know but it's it is a kind of denial industrial complex like we think we all know to something even in the new york times uh you know two years ago put a series on on think tanks yes they are by their funding right and so others but that notion of the denial machine right there's anti-climate change think tanks right that's their purpose for existing but i think it's much broader than just climate denial yeah yeah so that notion of a denial machine i think that there are a suite of denial machines yeah right there's a denial machine that runs on tobacco there's a denying machine that runs on climate they're denial machines that run on homelessness and the homeless system dial machines are largely in people's heads right there's an intellectual architecture that allows people to not deal with the homeless people on their doorstep as human beings right and you know the idea that you pinpoint analyze and destroy the denial machines to me this is the way forward because yeah let me put on an extremely radical hat here for a second uh i would suggest that objective truth [50:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=3000s) is singular right now objective truth is a small fraction of the truth right there's objective truth and there's subject your truth and their artistic truth and their spiritual truth and their many other truths but there is a subset of truth which is objective truth and it is the truth which is singular right climate change is a matter of objective truth nuclear arsenals are matters of objective truth homelessness objective truth maternal mortality state uh data right my favorite statistic for understanding societies maternal mortality how many of the women are dying in childbirth it's an amazingly powerful number because it responds really quickly to changing conditions and it tells you exactly who in the society is getting shafted right so consensus through shared destruction of the denial machines is almost like a mathematical process which will inevitably result in an agreement on fact right and this is how we get around the problem that we have right now which is that every [ __ ] that turns up to your meeting turns up with a different set of facts right it's not just that the interpretation is different the facts are different yeah um and that was not true 30 years ago 30 years ago if i did anything political the facts were generally agreed on now people have destroyed the structure of truth as they try and justify the unjustifiable and we have to get truth back or we are a one-way ticket to hell yeah and and in this sense like you know i like to think we're already at rock bottom but it's uh it's it's debatable it's debatable right so this is so low yeah i'm usually the optimist this was a point of of contention with michelle ballins because you know i always want to kind of try to intervene on these things in the moment right for better or worse but you know there's these cultural tides and a lot of people think that well the culture's just not there yet that's why there wasn't enough of a consensus around bernie even though there's all sorts of denial suppressive factors but you know people the the the kind of polls are clear to the extent that people want bernie's platform but they want biden as the candidate right for what for whatever that's worth i do not understand the love yeah yeah no it's it's just a kind of normalization you know like he's been fed to the culture for so long run the standard white guy yeah but it's definitely you know part [52:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=3150s) of this post-truth kind of uh uh kind of narrative that yeah i mean i can't right we're going to spend 20 minutes talking about buying the people there's a bunch of stuff i really want to say but no let's keep on track so where was i trying to get there we were we were talking about the consensus mechanisms right so the phenomena there yeah their own facts yeah and and so i wanted to say about the timing right like when is the right time because a lot of people still think it's not the right time and one of the things i found with the consensus research is that you know the harder things get the better time it is to do it right because there's more epistemic uncertainty absolutely and so and so you know the consensus building project it's anti-group think right that's another clear distinction to make yeah but it it it's going to work well in an environment where there is low trust and low certainty because through the process and through the shared resources and through the the stewarding of the process we can build up that trust and build build up the consensus right and so we're going to build up the consensus around these meta crisis type you know the problematic if you will so i mean the herd of black elephants what i like about this as an approach is i can imagine this as a practical workshop right a series of um series of them yeah so you've got what's your face johanna macy the work which reconnects which is like this kind of you know liberal 60s model of this kind of process okay let's all feel our grief about the death of the world um but you know like it's just kind of [ __ ] right i mean like the thing that i'm after is suppose it's a bit of context right i mean i've probably been homeless three or four times right when i was much younger and it was kind of fun and it was generally for short periods or i could have gotten you know somebody buy me a plane ticket and gone home right there were there were options i was never hardcore homeless but i've seen what street life is like to a degree on my father's side um my mother used to tell the story when she visited with him the relatives that lived in one of the big indian cities and they had a nice little flat in a fashionable part of town um and when she was cooking she had a brick that she put on top of the chapatis in the kitchen because if they had the kitchen window open to let the heat out um then the rats would run into the [55:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=3300s) kitchen grab the chapatis and then drag them back at the window well that's like late 1970s india for professional middle class indians living in the middle of a big city right so you know i'm have a much sharper awareness of poverty and what poverty is then i think nearly anybody who's working in these kind of fields and this you have also right you've seen the wolf at the door you understand what that is uh ian welsh you know also had the experience of extreme poverty for a long time and i think without that perspective it's very hard to have any kind of global empathy yeah right you just can't really get it yeah you know the winners of the game are least able to understand how the game operates overall yeah um and it's exactly the kind of mario antoinette's little people act problem right i mean i i spent a bit of time in dubai um you know doing things like world government summit and everything runs on rails and is perfect you know like they invite you out there they have an ocean of money everything is paid for your feet never touch the ground you know every three hours somebody comes out with some socks and some cold drinks and everybody wanders around in the beautiful beautiful sunlight under the shade with the missed cannons and you know you have the utopian experience then you go back into the next session uk foreign office right i went to the foreign office one time from meeting the foreign office has like a sistine chapel-style painted ceiling and the entire place is covered in gold leaf right and it's clearly the height of the british empire's achievement in terms of creating wonderful places to intimidate foreign dignitaries um how is anybody that operates in these environments going to understand yeah the sheer size of the pyramid of oppression that it requires to lift them to that pinnacle of lies yeah it comes back to to the denial machine too and how different different actors are like pixels in this denial machine and they just help help perpetuate it help perpetuate the metacritic i was going to say too about you know poverty in the global context like i've traveled to places like india and south america and southeast asia and you know like i wouldn't say you have to have that transformation but almost you have to go there and see it but not as a tourist right you have to [57:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=3450s) eschew the tourist experience and actually give a [ __ ] and also like think critically about how those situations arise because there is a you know a historical kind of global context in how the north and south hemispheres co-evolved right one one imperialized the other namely the british invaded [ __ ] everything exactly so yeah throw something out there because you said something really important there which is you have to see it not as a tourist yeah right um practically all of the magic white guys save the world projects which game b is one um are fundamentally rooted in an other ring of the experience right this is why they're so careful to make sure that you never get an angry black person in the room yeah right i could occasionally sneak in because i was light enough that nobody realized that my politics were a super hardcore radical [ __ ] you know oh yes mr gupta you're a disastrous expert nikonai yes yes right um but if i'd been black they would never have let me into those rooms right you know i was basically defecting on the indians as a moral minority yeah they do let people in like jermaine marvel but with a strict set of conditions and those conditions apply to me too as a white person right so now we get to the question of what is awakening right and here i'm you know going to put on my guru heart right um so firstly you know i'm entitled to talk about awakening because i'm a member of a multi thousand year old hindu spiritual lineage i started meditating when i was 14 i did more than an hour a day for eight years and then got my internal dialogue to stop completely then i found a guru then after several more years of having the utter [ __ ] kicked out of me i got enlightened impressive 26 very young um and you know people that really know their way around the enlightenment traditions you're like yeah i was recognized as enlightened by my guru 26 just kind of look at you like oh my god your wife must have been [ __ ] yeah i was [ __ ] right so it was like get enlightened or die and that's a very compelling argument so this means i have structural authority to talk about awakening right i have the equivalent of maybe uh i know doctorate in divinity with 10 or 15 years of post-graduate study and research on the back of that and i really know this [ __ ] right that's what that's what martin luther king had right a doctorate in divinity [1:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=3600s) right right so you know i have the i've hindu recognizable academic credentials as a master of the enlightenment tradition of india one of the branches so when i talk about awakening i'm talking about a specific technical process that i know how to lead people through i hardly ever do it because i'm kind of a monster and you know like you sort of want your guru to be a nice person not some blood blood-covered ogre that lives in a mountain right you know like too much time with the military too much fundamental anger you know the world is dying what the [ __ ] are you doing about it is not the kind of thing you want to hear from your guru right until you sell your merch 80s and feed poor people no no don't make me that number you're like we can't do that right but when people get onto my turf and start talking about awakening and they're lying to people i take this extremely personal and the thing that you were talking about is fundamentally closer to awakening than any of this horseshit that comes out of the people that talk about awakening right because you know the term karma yoga roughly yeah so your karma yoga yoga of doing the right thing you do the right thing in every situation as well as you are able and this is karma yoga and you're constantly conscious of actions and choices and i i think they're kind of fetishes fetishizing that exact idea with right relation you know and and things like that don't get me started so yeah the falseness of that mass awakening story right think of the huge amount of resources is sunk into the idea of global awakening will save us right all of the festivals all of the workshops all of the leaders all the books all of the movies right there's a full court press on that the olympics too always pops into my head as a actual functional thing to divert conflict yeah the what i'm talking about is the spiritual side right right you know that kind of frequency that i'm talking about of mass awakening collective awakening great awakening community shared soul whatever you want to think about right unity unity unity unity that imprint so i think that that is the great escape on the west coast it's their denial machine and it's the denial machine of there is [1:02:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=3750s) no requirement for us to change our lifestyles to become awakened right they want the awakening to run in a completely different compartment from where their checkbook lives and they want to believe that this constitutes a valid spirituality it's like spirituality that exists up here but it must never be allowed to touch the actual practical details of life and what you're talking about of like first you become alert to the practical details of life and you understand the world you're living on then you build a platform of right action this is what yoga is meant to be like yeah right before you do the half of yoga stuff the stretchy postures and all the rest of that you're meant to get the moral frameworks completely straightened out first because if you don't you're going to become a monster and i think that that process of this kind of grotesque you know kind of versailles spirituality of california i think that is actually the thing which is the biggest single obstacle to planetary survival right now because yeah so many good people are being diverted down this road to nowhere right and i don't know how we get them back other than by taking that dream away from them yeah and i and i value these established networks only to the extent that they can change like we're talking about and then and then distribute and you know proliferate the values and the actual critical thinking that we're advocating the critical thinking and i mean i don't want to over stress this but like you know we're dealing with people that have never really met a homeless person they've seen them they might talk to them they might give them the money but they've never met them um you know i had an experience with you know a very well intentioned person that you know brought along a homeless person for dinner and you know got them some food and all the rest of that stuff and about midway through this experience i asked the homeless person so how did you become homeless right and you know the whole story unpacks and from that come a bunch of things that we can do which will actually help this person get their wife back together right but if you never take the step of saying so how did you become homeless none of this stuff ever runs you see what i'm saying yeah um and you know to me until people have and again i hate the empathy word but until people recognize the experience of the poor and of the homeless [1:05:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=3900s) and of the people that are dying of diseases that could be treated if they had health insurance and all the rest of these things yeah until those humans pop into focus as people yeah i just don't see how any of this so-called spirituality is remotely valid yeah and that's the starting point conservatives and liberals you know like to they they blame the victim obviously they'll blame the homeless person because because they're already pretending that the society structures enough to help those people if they make the right choices yeah that's not but that's not true no that's not true and uh this is the and that's your denial machine that's how they wash their hands yeah off the guilt yeah um we've recorded an hour so we could wrap it up here we can we could keep going um i wanted to to say one more thing about this homelessness though because we brought it up earlier and it's just that you know it is a very systemic problem and tough to solve and i have some interactions but relatively limited because it's hard to help people directly right so i've volunteered at the soup kitchen once i i've talked to a few homeless people bought a guy at pizza once and in in that particular case you know this guy told me he had a kind of government income and then he was also begging at the skytrain subway station for money and and i like i you know i inquired and he's like he still told me straight up the money was for drugs and i told him i'm like well that's fine i mean first of all begging's not cool right because you should you if you you know if you have the income supplement you have a place to live that's great you know you should respect other people's kind of whatever autonomy in public space but with the drugs i tried to you know give them a positive message i said you know i use drugs like it's okay but we got to do it constructively right and there's other factors in your life that are making it a destructive process right so i wasn't trying to you know blame him at all but my point is just that there's no way i could help him i didn't have the money to help him you know so i advocate for these you know structural an individual can't really fix a super problem and this is why we need consensus building you know just to bring it full circle because a lot of these social problems can be solved we need to we need to stop pretending that they're impossible and yeah letting our egos and [1:07:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=4050s) politics get in the way because well pretending that they're impossible is a very direct diagnosis of why these things are not getting done right like eradication of world hunger is really not very expensive right it could do that we're just not doing it we're pretending it's too expensive but then it turns out to cost a fraction of the money that's going into us defense budgets right right so i think that this idea that there is a single unitary objective truth it's not all truth but there is a subset of the truth which is objective if you sit down with things like a carbon calculator or the slavery footprint calculator or the wealth calculator you know you can very quickly see where you are relative to the rest of the world you could figure out where you are in the great pyramid of oppression like oh i'm 98 percentile for rich whoa and i thought it was a poor person holy [ __ ] and they are socracy right and you know that awareness like oh and my carbon footprint is that of seven sustainable human beings right or four if you're in europe whatever it happens to be right you know that stripping away that comes with just looking at those numbers generates the beginnings of an objective frame of reference from which it's possible to build consensus impossible to build unity we will work together to get our carbon consumption down to a sustainable level right and at that point you know all the yak yap won the rumble crap that comes out of people's mouths when they talk about what they're doing with their lives it can all [ __ ] off because they don't understand where they are on carbon slavery and wealth nothing else that they understand is correctly grounded in reality they're just building castles in the air because they don't understand who they are in the world they live in right how can you find yourself if you don't understand who you are in the world that you're right it's an incredible dislocation that's at the heart of so much of this myth making and everybody gets into the room and their myths are incompatible but the truth by the nature of the truth being unitary is compatible yeah lies take people off in 50 different directions but if you cut through all of that yeah boom yeah yeah let me let me close on uh the word you used earlier which is othering because i really like it i really like that the concept because you're not just authorizing a general [1:10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQQjNBPJ2RE&t=4200s) population but like those places and other types of people there's geniuses among them too you know there's geniuses everywhere and so so the point i want to make is that this question of who we are um fundamentally the the realization is that we're all the same right and this yeah once you shed the ego and the identity in your own personal history and your own genetics we're all the same and we have you know slightly different like whatever uh abilities but a lot of that is you know environmental and socially constructed so we're you know we're fundamentally all the same uh so that's that's part of the consensus too we need to build is that understanding and that actual logistical kind of systems level uh support for our quality yeah um and if we don't get on top of this stuff relatively soon yeah you know i mean the the force with which climate change and similar are going to hit yeah wow boy howdy boy howdy yeah um well this has been great this is exactly what i was hoping for when we decided to do this likewise thank you mr gupta i'll stop recording now --- End of [770] Grounded Gabbin' with Vinay Gupta (on the meta-crisis), part 2 of 2. 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