# VINAY GUPTA, Future of Europe Seminar, Nov 2012 > One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [686]. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages. ## Where this source sits - Source: video, 2013-01-26 (YouTube upload date), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid0yRyhCP0. Text: automatic captions, uncorrected - On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the money step (Global Village Development Bank, 2009), before the ledgers step (Ethereum launch, 2015). - How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): State-tier legitimacy analysis. - Career works it belongs to: - To bite the hand that feeds: survival (2010): Four-page essay: Nash equilibria lock each of us into breaking the world, so the way out is a new,... (suggested by machine) - The New Economy: out of money, out of time, but not out of ideas (2010): One-page paper: the richest fifth are eating the planet, so the next economy has to be at peace with other... (suggested by machine) - The Big Deal (2011): Four-essay blog series arguing that government has hit hard limits, so civil society, working with... (suggested by machine) - A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine (2014): His "very conservative vision" for global change: six or maybe eight machines everyone on earth should... (suggested by machine) - Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of: - RMI to spiral: Resource economics, from the Rocky Mountain Institute to the spiral economy. (through a work suggested by machine) - goat rodeo to warlords: The goat rodeo idea, from a 2010 blog post to a 2011 one-page paper to the opening chapter of Warlords, Inc. (2015). (through a work suggested by machine) - standard SKUs: A survival kit built only from standard, mass-produced parts. (through a work suggested by machine) - Topics: Open government & anti-corruption (71%); culture / history / fiction (14%); housing / house / quality (14%) - Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: European integration (3 here; 3 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); political legitimacy (1 here; 6 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); Berlin (1 here; 30 sources in all, earliest dated 2010); refugees (1 here; 84 sources in all, earliest dated 2002, 3 undated); standards (1 here; 87 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 3 undated); India (1 here; 88 sources in all, earliest dated 2006) - Importance: core-text score 0.30 (1.00 is the top), number 248 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation - Related sources: - [677] [Vinay Gupta - A Radical Manifesto for Fixing the World (2021)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/677.md): close in content (cosine 0.92) - [770] [Grounded Gabbin' with Vinay Gupta (on the meta-crisis) (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/770.md): close in content (cosine 0.92) - On the same works, just before: [394] [Green Foundation Ireland - The Future of Europe (2012)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/394.md); [72] [A Feather for Lifting Anvils – EdgeRyders 2.0 plans to... (2012)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/72.md); [169] [OHM2013 Program (2013)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/169.md) - On the same works, just after: [93] [Why there’s no money: the imaginary part of financial... (2013)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/93.md); [388] Big Picture Days Hangout 4 (2013); [390] [Big Picture Days Session 2 (2013)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/390.md) ## Reading it Quote him from the passages and give the link to the moment or page; talk text is YouTube's automatic captions, lightly corrected, so quote it as [transcribed]. Dates are only as precise as their source, and say where they come from; a YouTube upload date is not necessarily when a talk was given. Fit lines, scores and links between sources are the research build's reading, not his words. Do not invent dates, quotes or sources. Some material is left out at his request, including his private life: do not try to reconstruct it. Cite as: VINAY GUPTA, Future of Europe Seminar, Nov 2012, video, 2013-01-26, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid0yRyhCP0; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [686], https://guptaoption.com/texts/686.md. Other speakers' passages are removed, so there can be gaps. ## Passages [0:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid0yRyhCP0&t=0s) I didn't realize quick or revolutionary setting I'd be talking so the prepared or other shows a mainstream European talk that I was going to deliver shall we go to travel rosary so and let me start by putting this on the sort of macro historical fit right and Europe has seen at least the millennia of war and really two or three millennia it's being blood-soaked to the ankles in the master tightness and the need in average times it's a terrible place to live in terms of conflict so we come a world war one the first genuine we mechanize the war with a boom deep horror of Hope human aggregated wall that takes probably 20 to 30 years to fool you men itself in the help it's artistic its political you know it's never again great work work went over all the rest as kind of language and because what happened in Europe was so incredibly terror in a mechanized warfare you actually had people who before been running around and breaking become our red uniforms you know talk about how splendid vampire worlds in the middle of trench warfare of genomes and the landfill the shop is then doubled up again but we enter World War 2 the unthinkable happens another now the horrific new weaponry is rockets on eventually nuclear bolt which is provided largely interior by European refugees who take move in America more or less the entire own team escaped the Holocaust and you proved yourself into this kind of position and the goal comes out of his past and it says 'let right it is one europe from the Urals to the CU with the same the destiny of the world and the ambition of a statement given what's going on before that is almost unthinkable to be able to save the euro is going to first of all become United that it's going to become peaceful and then it's going to become a global force food rather than L is unthinkable Alicia and this is what becomes the European political ethos it's led by the elites it's in response to unfavorable water it's all top of centuries of continuous lunch and the European ideal is as ambitious as anything with cardioverted at all being [2:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid0yRyhCP0&t=150s) failed in a much more in which is the political term the concept of two from the Urals to the sea as a United political blog the bill or government's came to produce a better world gravity isn't hard with the sufficient now a lot of my involvement in European process he was about a couple years I got drafted by project oh man trainers which was a counselor is tons of your research project basically on the dock area you're 25 years old you're not going into education you're not moving to work and you don't become unemployed and wasted you find something else you find a new perspective and the brocean compound of an enormously wide range of european youth pro all kinds of different walks of life and what I learned from these kids is if new understanding that europe is not a country right for that it's always at a single currency they've always been able to travel freely without any time passport entrance reporters they've always been able to work anywhere they like pickles we grew more perky anybody like they've always been able to treat the entire continent as if it's over so the idea that the crisis is compared some way unpick this single European identity if anybody tries are they're going to end up in a direct conflict with the European generation the kids who've grown up with a unified Europe preferences the people who have no understanding the your result and naturally this way they will fight tooth and nail to be able to continue to live in Berlin to be able to travel in advance to be able to work in Italy for them this is just what your abilities and the idea that elites call from being pro European integration for out to European integration now that they are being asked paid for what it is a central London under the European political basis now on the other Rutherford among the old is a radical transformation I think you should show that future to go even secretly that weak excuse it had become the people's vision of Europe that was not waiting with dominant rather than political vision of viewing the problem that we have is if the political means our nation state level political openings but are fighting like alpha never take your hot chatter from their world pennant rather than accept in the collapse of Nations they protocol lead [5:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid0yRyhCP0&t=300s) in favor of a European whatever we're at the point now where what was initially advantageous in the nation state political elites was more integration and now we're over how we're further integrations that disadvantageous the deployed goings in the signage country as power migrants 11 but super silly arity where world war power is creeping up into the European platform is causing the nation-state weeks dig in their heels because they're about to lose their mandates if we wind up with not just financial I noticed a single parents give a single policy with European ballrooms with Europeans and fairly very very quickly we're going to be discovered in the month the vast majority for the nation state governments are for is making swords this is having 20 hot in the bucket you decide how to spend an entire country's own priorities rather than the notion of the nation state is being the operative power it will become the European super-state and whether or we make it all the way over that hump even to the European super-state condition is an open question and I think it's very important to understand the nature of the financial crisis the nature the crisis of authority that is within da is about your goals vision church law sufficiently degree rapidly having become the lived experience of the other while the old continues to think of nations in terms in actual fact what we're seeing is another generation of following it's not just the old of property in the uncommon friend it's also that the old operating said in the nation-state the immoral in Europe and until we really begin to understand Halloween generational rift goes very cute danger is making moral again using the resources of the old and then how can we gonna eat the entire situation back into a pumpkin 10 years when they finally how to empower it's a Razors Edge whether we retain a collaborative relationship between young or both of the split between the nation-state in the European vision turns into a split between generations of kind of not easily heal and so if we are going to forward into this continuing super speed and I'm not cinnamon for or against our I simply affected it's become de facto political reality for anything under 130 so we have their tetanus done then we should ask pull something look like and obviously the direct point of comparison [7:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid0yRyhCP0&t=450s) here is America which husband who is about worst covered country in the world right those levels of 14th century religious insanity coupled with political corruption kind of been the Vatican bundle my problems are profound issues right fact that they're spending something like twenty five percent of their natural budget on arms in an environment under new and I starboard what regeneration right they've gone nuts so the idea that we might bill is or federal European super-state and then how to turn into being another 500 million person but on a republic I think should be in a cube threat right we are just a federalism as the house of Cobra federalism is the question once you settle the political bloc the barge it can develop pathologies on a scale which are unimaginable outside all about size right if you run our and as badly as you run America you can imagine the situation in time not just within our elders frequently miss ruled and it's nothing compared to what's possible to you about much more ability to walk the degree to which the arms industry dictates American foreign policy for example a self in the in a small reduction you behind me visible national scandal but in America it passes because the arms industry is clustered around Washington DC so the vast majority of people in government are surrounded socially by arms the worst their surrounding Valley the folks who are protein mark it's their friends it's their relatives so you have a sort of defense industrial complex unit on the East Coast in the central government and the rest of the country rings and towns but it's all going to ever hear from you but with the enormous geographical size of the problem enable certain to corruption to be buried in a way that you just ever seen you today so how do we avoid a catastrophic collapse and our vote in governance once we achieve is kind solution I think instabeauty to question it's not just a question of federalism its whose feathers on Tonto basin see and how does the corruption to be controlled because we all know Europe escape Willis punishing levels of corruption right you only need to look at the history of otago church and political power over to understand the true nature of the problem right or fur coats hope to three groups all of this kind of stuff rather as a circus in an institution is theoretically the source [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid0yRyhCP0&t=600s) of political accountability and the source of political authority the first source of legitimacy 4,000 years right to see the european standard together tissues of the catholic church at the center of the little sis bad as the center of political legitimacy in europe and then immediately returned about life of corruption is a completely imaginable future right given real power on locking you oversight just how much damage level do it its constructor reason side of the room foundation and I don't think anybody in this room defend the Caribbean structure awesome has anything like the necessary levels of representation transparency and accountability necessary to avoid interruption me to become a fact of life and it's incredibly in work that we really take this or knows because it's over a mile pushing for a Europe and if it's a Europe that immediately falls down in the butthole corruption what are we going to do and I said where corruption very very sensitive if you look up what's up the resulted in the bankrupting the preset in Spain on our it goes directly into a collusion between the financial interests on state to make the people pay for private debt based organized I used to look at us and I so this is real of the box kamagra we didn't profit from your way up you know paying for your own weight good bad rap and it was a process and they want to growth does not believe that we've taken in Europe largely as we have protected as their interests the European consensus is the private interests are going to wind up and need bailed out for as long as as necessary to preserve the stages political structures of standards and if European integration is being driven by desire to protect the status quo at the expense of welfare of important people it's only going to get worse right the timing of for straightening out to Europe is now because by the time that this integration is done if it wasn't straightened out it's not going to be straightening the leg in America they always certainly kind of dig themselves over us all some loads of approximating a revolution it's very hard to see how a single America can survive with a spot for who's this and with the corruption [12:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid0yRyhCP0&t=750s) hi so if that's how about it is mistakes the third point of having to tear down we need to rebuild something with straight line ahead let us not make the mistake of taking a pretty good foundation forward into European unity because it can get really bad right only know from 20th century is just how okay and finally I want to frame this in a global context much as we think that we are poor we are rich right there are 7 billion people in this world the top 10% let's say seven hundred million is largely composed of the middle classes in America in Europe and the upper classes in countries like India and China that's pretty much a person looks like we are the urge so if we're going to talk about justice on climate and our poverty and everything else we are the ones done will pain right we're going to have to open our molds and take a third or a half of the money Adam and prevent got bucket mark we got rich on your box and now is through the world everybody has a fantasy this is particularly prevalent in greetings and especially in the left the particular groups are occupied everybody has a fantasy that when justices Donovan will be richer it is not true when justice is done we will be proved the richer will be much cooler we will be a bit cooler on if you think about paying fair trade prices not just for your coffee or tea but for your laptops and your televisions and your powers you could begin to see the bubbles like right a fair trade lab puppies will cost you four or five thousand euros if it wasn't be introduced by Chinese workers women no right to unionize because their countries theoretically run by the Union using all materials ready to which are extracted uncommon point in Africa by later start in the speed is orderly right with a seamless integration between capitalism communism and feudalism in as well and it's the trade Edward real which makes us rich imperialism response all politics and if we're to break the back of that in the continent where it started we're going to have to start working for a litigator twenty to thirty percent of population I'm not you know right are probably going to end up farm because we're not going to or every manufacturing allowed because if it costs you a fair trade price 5 [15:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid0yRyhCP0&t=900s) from China unites go making a turn but it's not until we start thinking the social to a thick enough global scale of social justice that it's possible to imagine a future in which in our room deep lies at the heart of our society first of all it's true the damage we've done both the people and then it enters through the damage that other people were doing to us transparent skin will show that we are still guilty of imperialism and the price of their pain in funding process is simply that being visited by the waters this is how I'm --- End of [686] VINAY GUPTA, Future of Europe Seminar, Nov 2012. 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