# Vinay Gupta on Blockchain, Biotech and Consciousness - E43 (part 3 of 3) > One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [676], part 3 of 3. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages. ## Where this source sits - Source: video, 2018-12-13 (YouTube upload date), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss. Text: automatic captions, partly corrected - On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the law step (Mattereum, 2017), before the great powers step (Multipolar Realpolitik, 2024). - How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): States the raise-the-floor aim the plan serves. - Career works it belongs to: - The New Economy: out of money, out of time, but not out of ideas (2010): One-page paper: the richest fifth are eating the planet, so the next economy has to be at peace with other... (suggested by machine) - The Big Deal (2011): Four-essay blog series arguing that government has hit hard limits, so civil society, working with... (suggested by machine) - A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine (2014): His "very conservative vision" for global change: six or maybe eight machines everyone on earth should... (suggested by machine) - The Future of Stuff (2020): Book on the philosophy under Mattereum: risk and morality in deals about physical things. (suggested by machine) - Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of: - RMI to spiral: Resource economics, from the Rocky Mountain Institute to the spiral economy. (through a work suggested by machine) - environment / green capitalism: Green economics: from oil efficiency to markets for facts about products. (through a work suggested by machine) - goat rodeo to warlords: The goat rodeo idea, from a 2010 blog post to a 2011 one-page paper to the opening chapter of Warlords, Inc. (2015). (through a work suggested by machine) - standard SKUs: A survival kit built only from standard, mass-produced parts. (through a work suggested by machine) - Topics: meditation / lineage / spiritual (33%); culture / history / fiction (10%) - Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: social enterprise (3 here; 6 sources in all, earliest dated 2009); basic income (5 here; 21 sources in all, earliest dated 2014); Hope For The World (2 here; 7 sources in all, earliest dated 2014, 1 undated); Estonia (2 here; 13 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); recycling (2 here; 14 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); Singapore (3 here; 39 sources in all, earliest dated 2009); TechCrunch (1 here; 6 sources in all, earliest dated 2013); The Synthesis (1 here; 7 sources in all, earliest dated 2006); India (5 here; 88 sources in all, earliest dated 2006); global GDP (1 here; 18 sources in all, earliest dated 2018) - Importance: core-text score 0.32 (1.00 is the top), number 221 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation - Related sources: - [677] [Vinay Gupta - A Radical Manifesto for Fixing the World (2021)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/677.md): close in content (cosine 0.96) - [724] [Roundtable Discussion with Vinay Gupta and Bryan... (2024)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/724.md): close in content (cosine 0.96) - On the same works, just before: [600] [Mattereum Highlights - Chris Wray - Impact of smart... (2018)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/600.md); [721] [Vinay Gupta, founder Mattereum, putting assets on the... (2018)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/721.md); [597] Mattereum Smart Property Register - Rob Knight (2018) - On the same works, just after: [207] [Black Elephants (CCCR2018) - CSER (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/207.md); [692] [Vinay Gupta:From Global Resilience to Practical... (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/692.md); [931] [Blockchain and the Future of Humanity | Malta AIBC... (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/931.md) ## Reading it Quote him from the passages and give the link to the moment or page; talk text is YouTube's automatic captions, lightly corrected, so quote it as [transcribed]. Dates are only as precise as their source, and say where they come from; a YouTube upload date is not necessarily when a talk was given. Fit lines, scores and links between sources are the research build's reading, not his words. Do not invent dates, quotes or sources. Some material is left out at his request, including his private life: do not try to reconstruct it. Cite as: Vinay Gupta on Blockchain, Biotech and Consciousness - E43, video, 2018-12-13, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [676], https://guptaoption.com/texts/676.md. Other speakers' passages are removed, so there can be gaps. ## Passages, part 3 of 3 [1:17:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss&t=4650s) right if they had hard birth control and barrier contraception in India 6,000 years ago and don't we would be so hung up on monogamy right so you can't make an argument that there is an overhaul of the tradition of for contact with the modern world but I am NOT of the generation that's gonna figure that out I'm with the generation or just going to stare at the problem and do nothing right the hard part about this well let me give a specific technical example so nobody almost nobody in the West doing hatha yoga does any primer yoga right they just don't do the breathing stuff so what do we know about hatha yoga it transfers the energy of the body from being heavy and dance to being energetic and powerful right Thomas to the Rodgers note my terrible pronunciation I know what the words mean come from Ansel these ooh you know thumbs to Rodgers that's what you get from the stretchy bandy stuff then our justice on us that's where you get from the breathing stuff mm-hmm so you have is all these you know yoga bunnies that are running around doing prodigious amounts of hatha yoga and do pranayama so they fill with Rogers they fill with energy and passion and strength and then they run around in this supercharged position just chewing on things they don't get tired I heard we'll see you've had sharing food I've hired that a kite I don't penny breathing exercises but I'm filled with uncontrollable emotions Wow and you see tons of this yeah and it's just because they're doing the practice that generates the energy and not the practice it turns the energy into consciousness are they ever gonna get around to it or is Western culture specifically impressing people with the idea that they're filled with that or because it's a culture in which energy as you could equate it with goodness right they're just taking the bits out of the tradition that solved the problem that they have oh I wish I was hot and I wish I was more energetically strong and I wish I could charge around the world like my big sister knows I wish I had confidence and off they go they're really really really really just cherry picking the bit so they can use for their own pre-existing agendas mm-hmm right we thought they were learning to be like us no no no no no they're just learning to be better versions of them is there a Nelson event sure right we come from cultures in which the only technology that we had was so for organization so if you go back to the kind of static period right from the settlement of Agriculture through to the arrival of the Muslim [1:20:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss&t=4800s) colonists there's very little technological change in India there's a three four five thousand year period in which nearly all innovation is social innovation and innovation and personality and character the only thing that they can do to improve quality of life is to be better people better organized so the bedrock technology of Asia and I think this is largely true in China is better people better organized and that's what we had because we put our cultural energy into transforming our society because we didn't have science that allowed us to transform our physicality in the West they got the science of us and transform the physicality so they never had the pressure to change the individual and to change the society very messy people very messy societies all the energy goes into technological change and it's incredibly powerful under also strim endlessly dangerous hence nuclear bombs and global warming when they get it right you get a smallpox when they get it wrong you wind up with her Oshima these are not problems that we have because we did the majority of our social development in a time when we had new access to technologies of that kind of power so the Asian approach is we generally look at the world as being about the quality of the people under the society's Western Approaches do the gadgets work and it turns out if you get the gadgets right it almost doesn't matter how bad your society is if you've got clean meat solar panels and the internet it doesn't really matter that you are making every single wrong social decision you could make and that your relationships all look like hell on earth nonetheless you will not be destroying the world and nobody will starve mm-hmm you cannot reuse raw technological progress as we've solving the problems of the world it's incredibly messy it's very dangerous but it does seem to work and that the Asians basically have to look at this and decide well do we have anything to offer is it a fusion where we take the Western technologies in the Asian Social Development when we put them together or do we basically just try and run our world I read their world their way and I'm stuck half-and-half of this because in half asian and half white and so I'm looking at this through the lens of my parents expectations they did things differently maybe now I'm stuck between worlds to both my parents or Indian but I was born and brought up in England yeah yeah yeah I never know where where I am complicated culturally right very complicated culturally particularly if you do heavy spiritual practices it tends to pull you much deeper into the Asian perspective and then you wind up [1:22:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss&t=4950s) basically alienated design your own culture we used to call this the white woman in sarees problem they get very into their yoga and they discover they had to be as Indian as possible to get the stuff to make sense to them until you wound up with no you know we never wound up with a genuinely authentic Western fusion Hinduism we either wound up with serious devotees that tried to become as Hindu and as Asian as possible or we wound up with gloved Westerners to just pick the bits they liked and called it yoga right I have no psychologically prepared myself to talk about Tantra see took a while to file hi I'm so glad you could prepare myself to thereabouts I was trained as a tantric right my teacher said look they're basically you know for a bit major schools of Tantra and they're defined by how they handle paternity right they're celibate they're monogamous they're monogamous with the occasional exception or they are tribal like the balls and as long as you understand that what separates the schools of Tantra is how they handle paternity there is no ambiguity about what the rules of the game are the rules of the game are defined by whether or not people are going to have kids that's the frame the second part of her explanation of Tantra is Tantra is simply the intersection between enlightenment and responsibility mmm-hmm if you are enlightened and you have a family there is an interface between your absolute spiritual freedom and objectivity and the fact that your kid doesn't want to go to school but learning and you're constantly writing the balance the bicycle between these two poles and those two fats together are basically all anybody actually has to know about hop right yeah but what about all the you know the stuff about all the stuff right if you have freedom and you have responsibility then there will be a certain amount of stuff people will want to get married they will want to have kids it's good half of the same way almost did but the misunderstandings it said about hatha yoga yeah so you take an enormous ly sexualized culture with huge amounts of sexual repression and sexual Gil and you offer them this kind of like would you like the magic license do anything you like in bed and pretend that it's getting you closer to God oh you want the magic ticket it turns out they want the magic ticket yeah this is why I don't use the word Tantra right I mean if I'm teaching the material that would typically be in Tantra the phrase that uses sorcery [1:25:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss&t=5100s) yeah I'm Hindu sorcery Nepalese Hindu sorcery cuz I say time trip and then I say brackets not the sexy stuff yeah yeah yeah I just I just like music term right because nobody can differentiate right nobody can distinguish and it's it's kind of that same thing that we're talking about with race or whatever it when something so culturally understood but no even if your internet knows a different thing your reactions still go whether I mean anything that people think will get them laid they're gonna be interested in okay right 16 la it was just a new way of getting around the fact that the Association is that Tantra equals sex right and they've gotten that so deeply embedded in the culture I mean there was a point where I thought there was some point in fighting for the word and I just gave up sorcery because when you explain to people like okay so you know my branch is the monogamous householder Tantra branch right you get people together you do the rituals every video is home with their normative ordinary domestic partner right that's our doctrine that's not Tantra right okay let me get my shotgun I'll come back no tell me it's not time for again boom and that actually it's about the interception of the spiritual practices and the responsibilities of the real world and it's really nothing to do with sex well it's also not nothing to do with sex I mean right because of the majority of the householder responsibility is about dealing with kids right right so it's about I mean the to media interface resolves that I explained in terms of its enlightened people attempting to be householders with children right and when you put the kids back into the Tantra story the whole thing begins to make sense yeah right like it again right I got there really harshing with Buddhism for some reason the majority of the trouble in Tantra comes from Tibetan Buddhism in which nobody's having kids so the Dakini archetype right are these very hyper sexualized female wisdom teachers that never have children so there's no cycle of life stuff there's no responsibility stuff what you have is a monastic tradition with ritual sexual partners at the basically sound a lot of people like the Playboy Mansion so you've been basically we have these women around and we can have sex with them and they never have children we never have till you have any kids wow that sounds amazing ah right because what they're having is [1:27:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss&t=5250s) a sexuality with no responsibilities okay and this is addictive right it's a drug right when you put this in the context of you don't contra is about forming stable domestic arrangements in which enlightened beings can raise children together suddenly it doesn't sound so much fun no like oh well so they're sex well yes because people are married to each other and that is typically one of the things that happens Americans particular if they're going to have children oh but what about all the other thing oh you mean deep orgies yeah that's the Tibetans that's that's not ask somebody else somebody else's Department maybe the balls over there right they're a bunch of Street Yogi's they raise two children in big tribal units you could join them and run away and give away all your worldly possessions and then you could live as a man better with small children no no that wasn't yet it might you know it's you see what I'm saying yes so it's the D contextualisation right if you break the psychological link between people having sex and people having kids the whole thing just freewheels and it's impossible to not misunderstand Tantra mm-hmm it only makes sense when you put the kids back in the picture because the interface because we say between the spirituality in the responsibilities largely around children mm-hmm and that is not a message that goes over very well the neo Tantra world right so how many of you guys are like having kids together and raising your children in you know intelligent spiritual households nom nom like literally none and so at that point in whole way is the responsibility associated it's not the forming teams to take on the load of producing a good spiritual environment for the next generation they're not doing the heavy lifting right and as well as the role of parenting which is very much a way of creating the next generation bringing in responsibility understanding how the world works what the next steps are actually understanding what are those moral codes of small decision everyday decision-making right and you've got a kid asking you why why you have to find the right answers and that's a that's actually a deeply spiritual thing to do it's a deeply activist thing to do if you can find that place of those answers in a way that's at she going to shift us forward as humanity hmm because I told you so yeah kind of answers that that can be a default [1:30:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss&t=5400s) absolutely but it's so it's but it's the responsibility is not just parenting but it's that it is that responsibility of parenting the world its first guru right so even if you are not going to have children then you still have a responsibility as a parent hmm yes as an adult yes absolutely and this is the tricky thing around you know the easy explanation is that it's about kids right the hard explanation is it's about society mm-hmm the so the really slippery problem here is effective contraception and barrier birth control so once you're in a position where you can make a decent argument that sex has been largely de-risked right unwanted pregnancy doesn't happen stt you still happen the question then is what is the correct reaction of the old Asian cultures to that circumstance do we cling to social norms from the old days where these things weren't true and so institutions like arranged marriage were obviously extremely sensible solutions or do you kind of take this step of re-engineering and figuring out how you're gonna make that thing run so in my case I certainly cleave pretty closely to the traditional frameworks and that was a point of extremely intense negotiation between me and my guru in like 95 96 which resulted in a set of vows and you know the whole rest of that thing in that context you know I'm not likely to do any heavy cultural innovation on that stuff the problem I have is the handful of people through whom I'm teaching want to know what to do about their sex lives but that April should we do about this I'm like well you know basically I stuck pretty close to the Hindu arranged marriage framework this is probably not gonna work for you and the question is what do you tell who do you recommend and fortunately most of them have wound up settling down and getting married and at that point it's no longer anything to do with my opinion right but you know if I was gonna teach it scale you would need some kind of story about how all that stuff is to be approached and I just don't have a good story I don't know what I would tell people if they ask now do you cling to an archaic model [1:32:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss&t=5550s) do you participate in the norms of your culture do you find some kind of mid part through it yeah if I had a thousand students rather than four you know how you approach the question super tough super tough well we landed somewhere different so where I imagined we would go today and yeah we are we're at time splendid and so I would like to thank you for your well thought-out solutions and your questions your excellent questions thank you I really enjoy talking yeah me too and how do we find out more about what your team do you have a link that you can share probably best overview as a website called my hope for the world right my hope for the world which is a quick summary of the work that I did on disaster relief and then moves into the blockchain stuff that might you'll win clear to some of the meditation stuff I taught if not only go put one up if you're interested specifically in the blockchain work I have run a company called material which focuses on the implementation of legal property rights on bakit so basically how to make wiegel stuff happen on chain and that's me that's what do great and we'll post links to everything that we've mentioned in today's episode thank you for spending your precious time with us as always you can find links to everything we mentioned in this episode download our book and discover so much more over on the blog we don't believe in selling things you don't need through this podcast and so it's made possible with you our community if you loved this and would like to fund our show with a monthly donation or join our online group to connect with other listeners please visit www.subscriptorium.com or [1:35:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELF9RQUgKss&t=5700s) write until our 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Its connections are at the top of this file; the map is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt. Read next: next on the same works, [207](https://guptaoption.com/texts/207.md) Black Elephants (CCCR2018) - CSER (2019); the most closely related, [677](https://guptaoption.com/texts/677.md) Vinay Gupta - A Radical Manifesto for Fixing the World (2021); his whole career in one file, https://guptaoption.com/story.md.