# Transparency International launch event, Dublin (part 3 of 3) > One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [396], part 3 of 3. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages. ## Where this source sits - Source: video, 2012-10-25 (YouTube upload date), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsoIlMGeUw. Text: automatic captions, uncorrected - On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the money step (Global Village Development Bank, 2009), before the ledgers step (Ethereum launch, 2015). - How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): Institutional-failure context. - Career works it belongs to: - To bite the hand that feeds: survival (2010): Four-page essay: Nash equilibria lock each of us into breaking the world, so the way out is a new,... (suggested by machine) - The New Economy: out of money, out of time, but not out of ideas (2010): One-page paper: the richest fifth are eating the planet, so the next economy has to be at peace with other... (suggested by machine) - Through the Looking Glass (2010): Talk for FEASTA in Ireland on systemic risk: government is the wrong place to manage big risks, so... (suggested by machine) - The Big Deal (2011): Four-essay blog series arguing that government has hit hard limits, so civil society, working with... (suggested by machine) - A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine (2014): His "very conservative vision" for global change: six or maybe eight machines everyone on earth should... (suggested by machine) - Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of: - RMI to spiral: Resource economics, from the Rocky Mountain Institute to the spiral economy. (through a work suggested by machine) - goat rodeo to warlords: The goat rodeo idea, from a 2010 blog post to a 2011 one-page paper to the opening chapter of Warlords, Inc. (2015). (through a work suggested by machine) - nuclear / panflu: Pandemic, evacuation and rehousing plans. (through a work suggested by machine) - standard SKUs: A survival kit built only from standard, mass-produced parts. (through a work suggested by machine) - Topics: Open government & anti-corruption (92%) - Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: Ireland (25 here; 36 sources in all, earliest dated 2006); citizens (9 here; 63 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 3 undated); anti-corruption (2 here; 5 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); right to know (1 here; 4 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); rule of law (2 here; 21 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 2 undated); open data (1 here; 9 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); commodities (2 here; 38 sources in all, earliest dated 2009); accounts (2 here; 51 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 1 undated); SEC (1 here; 28 sources in all, earliest dated 2009); communications (2 here; 81 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 5 undated) - The earliest dated source in this archive for (undated sources may be earlier): open data; anti-corruption; right to know - Importance: core-text score 0.13 (1.00 is the top), number 460 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation - Related sources: - [572] [How To Address Climate Change: Diplomacy, Politics,... (2022)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/572.md): close in content (cosine 0.91) - [279] [Jon Husband (Wirearchy inventor) and Vinay Gupta discuss... (2016)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/279.md): close in content (cosine 0.91) - On the same works, just before: [400] [http://hub.coe.int/forum-mondial-de-la-democratie-5-11-oc... (2012)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/400.md); [399] [Council of Europe World Forum for Democracy... (2012)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/399.md); [725] [Vinay Gupta l Plausible utopias | Meaning 2012 (2012)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/725.md) - On the same works, just after: [148] [Mother of Hydrogen (2012)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/148.md); [320] [The Living City - Buttered Side Down presentation to... (2012)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/320.md); [391] [Green Foundation Ireland - The Future of Europe (4) (2012)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/391.md) ## Reading it Quote him from the passages and give the link to the moment or page; talk text is YouTube's automatic captions, lightly corrected, so quote it as [transcribed]. Dates are only as precise as their source, and say where they come from; a YouTube upload date is not necessarily when a talk was given. Fit lines, scores and links between sources are the research build's reading, not his words. Do not invent dates, quotes or sources. Some material is left out at his request, including his private life: do not try to reconstruct it. Cite as: Transparency International launch event, Dublin, video, 2012-10-25, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsoIlMGeUw; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [396], https://guptaoption.com/texts/396.md. Other speakers' passages are removed, so there can be gaps. ## Passages, part 3 of 3 [1:25:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsoIlMGeUw&t=5100s) accountability at the highest level and I think in terms of transparency one of the problems with the European Union systems it's so complex remember kind of getting appointed to the or put on to the European scrutiny in the do was the equivalent of the salt mines in Siberia you you but we need I think the shanet to be reformed or some such institution to have an absolute focus on what's going on in the European Union because at the present time our political system domestically does not do that just in relation to what Jane is saying the actual previous white paper which was very close to publication unfortunately we ran out a road in my from my perspective to get it out but it was a completely different plan for going to form and it was in my mind sorry a you say it's complet what was prepared while you were in the department of the environment is completely different from what PH the one before the one that John said not to publish was very similar to it yeah but we I mean we engaged I suppose in the series of about was person involved about 10 to 15 meetings with officials and there's a natural battle between elected politicians and the system the permanent government in terms of where power resides I think Phil Hogan lost that dramatically I think it involves a massive recentralization of power particularly the lack of power that's been given to Regional authorities I mean what Martin tribunal was saying is make it directly elected he didn't do that um what what Michael says about kind of strong Regional plans the development of water is centralized Irish Water the development of Waste Management under Phil's plan is centralized the development of Transport is centralized in National transport Authority um the and even in the instances where the remaining planning at a regional level does reside on on St with the region authorities what the plan is saying is that the elected officials shouldn't they need bother looking at those little details by making a statutory submission on the regional plans it has taken that away from the open Democratic Arena and put it into a closed door process where the officials will examine Lo where the very officials that are being examined their plans will be involved I think actually uh if I'm not sure Michael Smith might have a different view on that something been speak but while we have you here uh and we advantage of your presid it's just something that's been puzzling me for a long time and goes directly to [1:27:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsoIlMGeUw&t=5250s) what we've been speaking about here today and that is do you see any connection between one of the persons against whom the were G findings against in the moriarti tribunal had been one of the largest donors to one of the parties in government and the subsequent lack of action I think one of the biggest question questions um is in regard to now the Supreme Court case or the where the former some some of the parties involved in that person and others are taking a case against the state and where it seems it seems a very unusual circumstance to where the Supreme Courts are saying they're in a sense agreeing with what the marar tribunal had said in those circumstances you'd have to say is there a case for the government to try and get a mediated settlement rather than a contested Court yeah well that's on that issue that may be a point but I suppose the point of question is is that the Judiciary have made very clear to be anyway how they feel about all of that but there's been no subsequent action in politics at all that the government of the day it took them all of their time to say that they accepted the findings of the Trad and the first point that I ask is and one of the largest financial donors to the government government is uh do you know someone against whom grave adverse findings were made IE don't money by your influence in Government it it would appear that in certain circumstances yes it can and that is probably the largest and the most shocking example of such influence seeming to have had an a very real and direct effect at a cost of the Artic Circle um is there anybody else wish just to say to gentleman I have a very question my name is AD Stevens I'm a member of transparency uh I in respect to the beef tribunal which came before the we' been speaking uh one outcome was that uh deso Mali wanted to examine the civil servants in the Department of Education to hire civil servants and I remember uh the uh the Union uh battled that the Civil Service yeah this the union for higher higher civil service but I'm might be mistaken I I don't know if anyone followed that that issue and whether uh whether the minister was basically put back in his box by the the official well it's [1:30:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsoIlMGeUw&t=5400s) members of the higher civil servants Union who would be advising the government ministers who are drawing up the terms of the tribunal their terms of reference no this was after the tribunal had had concluded and I think he wanted to look into some of the connection that have been discovered well someone for instance left a Secretary General in a Department of Agriculture and the next Monday they joined I think Goodman International there were we never got to examine the the issues because the the union successfully shut down what the minister was trying to do that's my recollection uh but it was a long time ago tribunal was over has much changed since then Gary yeah noet I don't think much has changed at all it goes back 1991 what's that 20 years ago but the point is the minister talked about group think at the end and I think the point you make in terms of thereal as some sort of shining night trying to hack down the uh the bureaucracy of the civil servants from getting into way uh I wouldn't be terally convinced of that uh but there clearly is a Nexus of senior civil servants and Senior politicians that have kept this country uh closed in terms of what the citizens no I think strengthening Freedom of Information legislation that's what we need to do but in fact the opposite has happened since foi came in we don't have whistle blowers legislation that is any you know that has any great strength in terms of what Michael says we don't have a register of lob these are three simple things that could in many ways transform what the citizens of this state know and that's was my defense the tribunals we know have some evidence although it's cost billions and that the these complex and covert payments were uh uh were basically how Society was rulle so in that connection I think you know the more openness the better for the state I think one of the most depressing things about the mariarti tribunal after the expenditure so much public money was I think the misreporting in much of the media um I think um quite apart from I'm not sure if I can use this word um theous of Dennis O'Brien um I think that the thing that through maybe it was because there was an earlier report that was um that was sort of collapsed which referred to civil servants being inth to the ministry the prelimary report which [1:32:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsoIlMGeUw&t=5550s) was subsequently changed but I think maybe as a result of that the media reportage was was over cautious at the heart of the problems in the AR tribunal was I think um delinquency on the part of um civil servants who who were who expressed no difficulty with the proximity of the relationship between uh Dennis O'Brien and and Michael Larry and I I think if anything that was the systemic problem that was that that emerged from the tribunal but it wasn't really reported maybe because the dealings of of of of done and how he and Larry were and Bri were sex here to report on I I hope somebody who's received solicor letter to my house where I wouldn't expect to get them it's James Morris in the audience be very very careful about what you said with people because no good can come off of it um Henry McDonald I think was [Music] yeah I'm hry from I'm pleased to be here today I just want to ask the panel a big broad question which applies only Army in Europe but will there ever be a Mah tribunal into Anglo Irish bank at and what who can come from sure I I think that the time for rather than a man style you know costing us billions it would be great to have sort of a Truth and Reconciliation type thing where you know we can hear what was going on now we were promised that something like that would happen if we had pass the arus inquiries referendum um so I'm not sure but I don't think that there's any great appetite in it I think there's a lot of the same people are involved in you know a lot of the the major parties and there isn't any great appetite for a huge amount of uh of blood Ling ons which I think is a bsy you know there uh we do need to move on but I think you can only do it properly if you understand completely what happened and we still don't even know what happened that night in the cabinet never mind all of the uh the events leading up to it so I think it would be very healthy not a for Mahan tribunal more a sort of a a Truth and Reconciliation type uh environment Nelson I think that there's a lady sitting in front K Ken from go so just follow the panel then the discussion on whistleblowers um my research is on whistleblowing in banking and financial institutions from the last couple of years focusing on Ireland the UK and the [1:35:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsoIlMGeUw&t=5700s) United States so just the um the instance reported in the ifsc that um Michael Smith brought up is not unique in any way to Ireland so we have the case of for example Ry berenil of law of the United States who was actually sent to jail for um Coming forward with information on a crime that he'd been involved in this is the reason he had the information to come forward and he was um they were unable to offer him the Department of Justice or the SEC in the US uh immunity similarly the Financial Services Authority in the UK um fall into that uh category of being unable to be clear to whistleblowers in banking about this so the problem is wider in Ireland it is except we did offer immunity if I'm not mistaken to some people at the tribunals yes but in terms of kind of whistleblowing in banking the Central Bank actually news one point to sort of compel people to come forward so yeah um but just for the panel I mean how seriously can we take legislation even on whistleblowing and banking in an environment in the ifsc where every debate for example on financial transaction tax reduces to things like don't uh don't scare off the jobs in the financial services sector who good on yourself I'm just again getting a big not to get tooo focused on on the national context I mean Aman referred to the fact that more and more power is being transferred to to to to Brussels lack of accountability there to be very specific in the case of Central Banking at the moment policy makers are talking about transferring supervisory responsibilities uh for Eurozone Banks to the European Central Bank probably one of the least transparent and accountable European institutions so and in this very specific case that Michael brought up which is reporting breaches of capital ratios that's that is is going to be now one of the new powers of the ECB to to police that so if you're talking about whistleblower legislation about breaches we have to look at the framework for the up and Central Bank as well as our domestic Banks as well well I think at this stage what we have to do is uh take a break one presumably people want to have Cups of Tea attend other calls and listen I'd like to thank you all very much I know [Applause] after the we' be having over [1:37:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsoIlMGeUw&t=5850s) you thanks for watching and I'm going to end the broadcast now --- End of [396] Transparency International launch event, Dublin, part 3 of 3. Its connections are at the top of this file; the map is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt. Read next: next on the same works, [148](https://guptaoption.com/texts/148.md) Mother of Hydrogen (2012); the most closely related, [572](https://guptaoption.com/texts/572.md) How To Address Climate Change: Diplomacy, Politics,... (2022); his whole career in one file, https://guptaoption.com/story.md.