# 1 > One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [275]. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages. ## Where this source sits - Source: video, 2016-11-04 (YouTube upload date), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo. Text: automatic captions, partly corrected - On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the ledgers step (Ethereum launch, 2015), before the law step (Mattereum, 2017). - How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): Raw conversation fragment. - Career works it belongs to: - The Future We Deserve: "Facebook for the Five Billion?" (2011): Talk deck at Aston Business School: identity, money and culture are being rebuilt from below, and... (suggested by machine) - Taking a crack at a practical system (introducing the ESCROWNYM) (2012): Blog essay proposing the escrownym: an identity lodged with escrow brokers under a legally binding... (suggested by machine) - Tell Me Who You Are: Identity, institutional memory, and the persistent illusion of the self (2015): ConsenSys essay on what identity is, and how to build identity people can live with: profiles kept apart,... (suggested by machine) - Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of: - CheapID to Mattereum: One identity pattern, from a person's ID card in 2006 to warranties on physical goods in 2017. (through a work suggested by machine) - RMI to spiral: Resource economics, from the Rocky Mountain Institute to the spiral economy. (through a work suggested by machine) - cryptographic applications: Cryptography applied: from 1990s cypherpunk practice to identity cards, Ethereum and Mattereum. (through a work suggested by machine) - Topics: Cryptography, encryption & cypherpunks (21%) - Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: Secure Scuttlebutt (2 here; 2 sources in all, earliest dated 2016); PGP (4 here; 16 sources in all, earliest dated 2011); venture capital (2 here; 26 sources in all, earliest dated 2002); certificates (2 here; 26 sources in all, earliest dated 2006); communications (3 here; 81 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 5 undated); accounts (2 here; 51 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 1 undated); science fiction (1 here; 37 sources in all, earliest dated 2011); platforms (1 here; 76 sources in all, earliest dated 2008); standards (1 here; 87 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 3 undated) - Importance: core-text score 0.22 (1.00 is the top), number 341 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation - Related sources: - [758] [#3 Vinay Gupta, Indexing the physical world (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/758.md): close in content (cosine 0.93) - [567] [The Fourth Mattereum Physical Asset NFT Meetup 8th Feb 2023 (2023)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/567.md): close in content (cosine 0.93) - On the same works, just before: [278] [Thoughts on the DAO (1) - it takes a lot of people to... (2016)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/278.md); [719] [Cyberpunk to blockchains: Cultural history of... (2016)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/719.md); [679] [FutureRant - Vinay Gupta Pt 4/4 - "Cypherpunk to Cyberpunk" (2016)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/679.md) - On the same works, just after: [272] Interview with Rob Knight (hexayurt vc) and Dominic Tarr... (2016); [268] [Thomas Bjelkeman of Akvo.org and Vinay Gupta of... (2017)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/268.md); [266] ["Blockchain: IoT's trust broker?" talk on the fly by... (2017)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/266.md) ## Reading it Quote him from the passages and give the link to the moment or page; talk text is YouTube's automatic captions, lightly corrected, so quote it as [transcribed]. Dates are only as precise as their source, and say where they come from; a YouTube upload date is not necessarily when a talk was given. Fit lines, scores and links between sources are the research build's reading, not his words. Do not invent dates, quotes or sources. Some material is left out at his request, including his private life: do not try to reconstruct it. Cite as: 1, video, 2016-11-04, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [275], https://guptaoption.com/texts/275.md. Other speakers' passages are removed, so there can be gaps. ## Passages [0:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=0s) [Music] like summer okay [Music] and no just it's just a stereotype so I'm point one either one of you we can on center for whatever reason the precise combination of software cables is after missing although to model on the floor mm-hmm okay say something something test one two three not getting your waffles it's just assume it's okay ok so today we're here with rob knight and dom lip tar and rob is one of the folks from this new [2:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=150s) venture capital project that we're putting together and dominic is from project called secure scuttlebutt don't introduce yourself hi well some money ya dumb like and secure scuttlebutt is uh i think the thing is that this is a secure gossip system so to scuttlebutt scuttlebutt is the Cask that today's water ration is stored in on an old sailing ship so his eppley the same connotations of gossip as a s the water cooler was something like this and and basically it's a protocol we're information travels in the manner of gossip and from one node two thousand to another node and so on but unlike and regular human gossips cure so 11 Pit one intermediate freenode can't change what you're saying so there's no like worse for this problem see and you personally hope you're interested well I had wanted to build a platform for distributed applications that works offline and so part of this was I think I started on this path i was living in anna swamp and so we're in a swamp in New Zealand and the I didn't have an incident on my vote so the situation of the of them not being kicked internet shouldn't didn't wasn't wrong I named systems that worked even if you were off line or and you know connection and like head unreliable connections like I grew up on a farm where the best we ever got it was a satellite connection which had one second lake and see ya so the I don't assume that you always connected is like the it's going to happen any Samsung yeah and then you can sort of you can daydream that out to be like well space exploration you limited by litespeed so um you're going to be back it's going to be back kind of like sailing ships yeah not going to better get instantaneous real-time 9-12 surgeon [5:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=300s) like that it's the more she up yeah and now it's the post one Jupiter settings like Fabolous but charming two and a half hours something with a long time yeah even the second so like a to the moon it's a second and a half what sorry what um which is just enough to be conversation impossible right yeah I'm still kind of stuck on you live in a swamp are we basically telling us at your Yoda aha well um I think you're a better likeness of Yoda right it's over between you don't Java the hut it's not that funny hahahaha what did janiece wassup what star so yeah I'm Rob night I'm working with today on the venture capital project my background is in software development software project management various mixture of interesting I don't live on a boat in a swamp and so I don't have like that degree of experience with those kinds of exotic conditions but I think like everybody I should have seen the same variability in lots of different kinds of interconnectivity over the years ranging from ancient 1980s modems all the way up to five objects and and so on now it's kind of it I kind of agree this person we've come to take for granted that quality matey's just always honest in their if it cannot low latency and available we kind of look at it like it's not working mm-hmm and actually that's really just a product of the conditions that we're it that's normal product of the fundamental reality of engineering these systems for as you say into binary communications or whatever else it might be in its kind of always amusing when you see some science fiction which blatantly disregards the physics involved and does appear to have a very long range instantaneous communications that's really it's good to be reminded of the actual engineering mm-hmm and also when we look at um you know places outside the first world and basically dirt crappy internet is bothering to get up and even though people in my head um sat on cell phones [7:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=450s) they probably can't afford oh so the infrastructure actually might be be about yeah they kind of they can't afford access to it you know I mean this place here when we initially got it had eight megabytes of connection mm-hmm so you know I moved in and it was just about broadband terrible latency or downtime taught me unpredictable and then about 9 months in hyper optic came up you aren't run five of the building mm and my quality service interest in raw speed terms improved by 125 times overnight it was actually just a through social 125 times faster and I can't think of another utility that could potentially have improved by far from 125 times mmm but you know imagine it remains electricity got 125 times cheaper mm-hmm it would go from bill if you know 30 quid a month to you know 39 a month or maybe going from fact plumbing to having to walk a couple of Kay's with a bucket yeah examined it and so is it was just a huge step function thing for essentially no physical change in the environment no I'm 2 kilograms a matter might have moved yeah in the form of the running a cable or something but it was just yeah there's something magical about them but the fact that you know in London 500 meters of a train station we were tube station mmm but in a transport hub with a huge shopping mall nearby four or five thousand people living on the connect state mm-hmm the you know the only just thought it turned on mm-hmm it's something very weird is happening yeah and even them as privileged wissen you can go traveling and then you're in a strange airport or like once you're out of your own country pretty it's a pretty damn good chance that your beans duck disconnected thanks or even just a busy young a busy cafe white by doesn't Chris wipe it just isn't designed to work for a lot of people yeah luncheon the Wi-Fi is down yeah or it's just too crowded yeah it's basically like right Edward from radio and radio is quite shopping certain shots at once yeah yeah Andrew what are those base stations call the ruin resistant about barracudas or something there's one that it whenever I see a conference I'm like oh yeah that's the good one the Wi-Fi will work and when you don't see that particular brand it never works it's something with barracuda [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=600s) so um what swayed into the crypto mmm so we honestly come up with this kind of blockchain frenzy mm-hmm you know first bitcoin then Ethereum now zero cash mm-hmm layer after layer after aware of this incredibly aggressive innovation mm-hmm but in practice when we use these systems when you're going to make a payment to some you either look at web page which has no real security of their server is hot armed download their address from there mm-hmm or they send it to you over google talk or this entity over Skype mmm all of which are woefully insecure mediums mm-hmm so the form of how do we bind me to a person is completely unsolved except using these tools informal mechanisms and now way back in the mists of time that I mid-90s meaning we have this thing called GP g and g PG rent a canoe privacy guard before that p-gp pretty good privacy was a bunch of state-of-the-art encryption which was enormously offensive to the US government prior to the purchase of PGP Inc by Network associates mm-hmm Network associates then reversion PGP from 26 to 25 removing all V and patented algorithms mhm and replacing them with a bunch of roughly equivalent algorithms a word patented after which the US government seems in series of resolve its facility to PGP mm-hmm moving swiftly on also by the way the NIST then just over being critical paranoid and so National Institute for Standards and Technology and take the cipher that the NSA's back door the cryptographic random number generator add dual EC be deterministic random bit generator DVR n where is yep dislikes the acronyms and everybody is strongly encouraged to use this mhm but it turns out that because it uses an elliptic curve it is possible if you know a site a set of magic numbers which are related to the magic numbers which are inside of the random number generator that you could take only a little bit of the output of the round remembered remember and infer the internal state yeah so essentially the shovel battle around the number generator because the NSA has the private keys the random number generator the public keys are going out inspectors yeah so people don't seem to have spread that paranoia to the rest of the cipher to [12:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=750s) the NIST sweet but it seems logical that you'd have to well there were people that but there are people that pointed out the sort of part of the problem with this random number generator isn't had a head like it needs seeing sort of a settings file and the settings was like basically you have some random some some numbers that are randomly distributed uniformly distributed and they presented like this is the numbers for this one but they never explained how they got to those and that means well how do we know those are fear but how do you know that doesn't ask you to property that we don't know about yeah and when the what's consider the right way to do this as you pick a it's called them nothing up my sleeve number so you might use the so I think she'll 256 as this I might be wrong about the specific details here but it uses the fractional the decimal fractions of the first 30 or so prime numbers of the square roots of the first video so prime numbers yeah which is uniformly distributed yeah but if they can make a good argument that we didn't choose these numbers I just had in the universe they're just there we are narrowing loves really interesting young resolute numbers ya heard of no okay that's cool such an obvious idea won't you won't you know it insert something but you're the club super in the world series here yes yeah exactly exactly sisters other protocols have the nest sweet like shut up sex is being very well studied and has things like that so there's no real course yes that's why that's why the paranoid about that yeah particular one yeah yeah if they'd had good nothing up your sleeve number or not didn't could be a different story although there's still this problematic thing that you do have strong indications from the structure of the cipher know the structure of the random number generator that you do have the ability to have external numbers which are tied to it so even if you picked a nothing up your sleeve number there's still the possibility that you could then do an enormous amount of compute to calculate the set numbers we need solo in front of internal state and you perhaps think if you don't have a special number you might you have to have some secret at dance number theory yeah which the NSA could have because they have a lot of very very good mathematician 50 years of [15:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=900s) classified mathematics yeah but if guess at one level curve cryptography as a people have to choose what experts they are going to expose their uh 60 and at least there is a sense of like if you choose like dan bernstein yes um you aren't going to be the only idiot if it gets out yes like up some of it it's like flying on a jetliner this is building your own airplane absolutely no I mean I'm definitely massively against people rolling their own prefer but what I want to establish is an appropriate degree of paranoia and because you know what we're discussing here is integrity of human communications yeah in an age when everything is monitored that calm because we monitored on many of the platforms are basically surveillance marketing please so the notion that we have to get a robustly re-examine the entire ecosystem in figure out where to build do you I think it's quite important so this question of discovering an identity right if I want to talk to somebody I need to retrieve a key on right now we're doing that informally by sending the keys over instant messenger one of the things which hasn't happened yet is large-scale fraud by key substitution mmhmm yeah you send me an email with payment details you know I naively assume that because the email came from you the payment details are correct you can somebody else to substitute a different key in your email I make the payment to the Kia I think you gave me money goes missing yeah and although that attack is largely theoretical at this point once that kind of stuff starts in earnest and Wes we've got really strong mechanisms to be well managed names faces we're not going to be able to do and armed that question of how do we bind two people or Keys organizations we currently announcer for which is x509 AK https certificate authorities and all that stuff basically has a bunch of global keys which then become a bunch of national keys which are then farmed out to the registrar's who use that chain of authority to sign the key for you you come and say here one HTTPS sir yep and because the registrar's are economically incentivized to issue certificates they don't really check stuff properly and you get things like people and getting a [17:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=1050s) fake Microsoft certificate issued and was it finland mmm which causes all kinds of mayhem because of all of the computers in the world until that certificate is cancelled you are Microsoft mmm and so I want to kind of you know just math but also people have it in mind do you so we start talking our way through what scuttlebutt isn't how it will work mm-hmm they've got some notion of where it fits relative to the ecology that we currently use yet because we're actually all using crypto every day you know not just in blockchain applications but anytime you have credit card into a computer and sneak commerce would not be possible without cryptography does everybody remember the internet before Internet commerce was possible just about even children there was a time when you could not make a payment on the Internet everything was up like it lived unencrypted on the wire even type of your passwords and things was not secure and we lived through this Dark Age the 90s me because it was hot 98 99 porn ago HTTP a CD and one of my friends Samir Park a bit enormous amount of money even with a company called see to the produced a thing called was it stronghold Munich was the first hgts web sparber mm-hmm and you know the time this was the Bitcoin of the day doesn't really everything yeah I was up right so now that we've kind of flash over the namespace mm-hmm right and we've got some lotion or individuals have a key mm-hmm and start at the beginning of skull and just giving you know just going to bring it down I'm an individual I got a keeper what a scuttle a difference so um we kind of came out I can't came out just got about after having like so learnt about like how somewhat secured a bit security and distribution and stuff and like database replication and that kind of thing I came together and I saw that there was this quite good idea in pgp that I was poorly implemented that you know that had like a trust network which seemed to me surely be a pretty good way to allocate to assign names to keys and a decentralized way but it brutally failed by not being fun yes and yes and the now [20:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=1200s) we have a opposite of fun yeah um they call it a key signing party but it's not like a party you're I might enjoy going to AA I haven't even been to a kiss only part oh it's not really I've been to a few if you do you two long rows of people mostly still with a rolling luggage or backpacks so they come straight from the airport to the conference we're friends you know moving down in lockstep one at a time examining each other to pass person and typing stuff into their phones yeah yeah and another program here is that this idea of like examining so much passport this like will they put some you know those that's one version of I needed that you complete your minds of you know you don't necessarily want to do the same person of it the government thinks you are yeah for example you know musicians as quite frequently like treading new identity to release new material on so they they can see how well that stands on its own yeah without associating it with the more successful name something like me up yeah and so I sort of wasn't why it took sort of those ideas but also the some sort of playbook some retail the like web two point O playbook we're we're in lib to open oh they sort of you know and social media and stuff they design a thing they don't they don't sell the product the app to your rational mind yes they it's entertainment they make a thing debt and that it's just it's just sticky it has its engaging you user yep because you enjoy using it yes you don't think about you don't need to think about what you use on yeah why is this bed to be fun right yeah and white ant but then you can come by in a triplet those things so you can look at twitter and you can be like I twitter is actually a trust network yes because then you follow someone you were saying this isn't as an interesting human being or a very clever box and um but if you own it follow a couple hundred people you have been like these are the these are the user names that I think are interesting out of the into higher engineer yes that's actually a very strong signal yeah yeah am assuming what you think of of my of my opinion i mean it's its [22:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=1350s) objective but for my point if you're on that these are real yep antenna flows if those people say that these other things are real yeah that's a and good thanks as you have this kind of took a week preponderance of evidence we've so yeah you can see you can interpret it like that yeah it doesn't mean that um the users of Twitter thinking about there I mean they do it didn't necessarily build it that way that's what you get yeah I see so um I think you should look here and but what is the you should look at the meaning of an action in terms of like the way that my Rick and Stein won't like what does it do what it fixed us this okay but the bulk that a lot more well um I've read more anything for example show this offering for example the black button yes or favorite Batman on Twitter what does that mean mm-hmm well Oh sort caravana signs and signifiers way well just because it says favorite doesn't mean that that's your favorite tweets yeah and yeah it people use it in a multiple of ways yeah and i use it for bookmark yep you can use a bookmarking but also since it notifies the author of thirst weeds um it's a way of life acknowledging that to them yeah like it's kind of way but you can say thank you to them or by read this yes and without adding any extra grunting yes and it's a good thing to use at the end of a conversation when you don't want to keep replying that but fighting over who gets the last word you just like the thing you get is basically the end with the conversation he's there cause exactly is that like it's like a smile or not sort of that's a time in like last year there was time where Twitter tried to turn to drive engagement tried to turn likes into retweets and everybody was like no this is like it's it's not a it's not there's a visitor there's a retake for a reason yes and the same thing with this commenting of tweets that we have no do not reuse link it yeah there used to be this kind of fine art of retreating something and shortening it mm-hmm and that limited the length of a retweet chained because you can either stop credit and people even or you could or you just run out of space as you the list of vayas got longer longer and longer yeah and so it naturally expired stuff you put on one hand made Twitter was viral but the other hunting forced a certain kinda locality and tourism lost although Kali it's become this single rolling space of [25:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=1500s) global means man but i think the locality was a lot want me to interested they felt like a place because you know the stuff we couldn't go retweet is the retweet you know vaya vaya vaya changa longer long or longer and the message is got more and more and more compressed than what's a noisy gave you the spatiality and you've got a paleo chat mm-hmm so David Brin the sci-fi author who also works big engineering and husband called paleo chart which is meant to be a chat room environment which includes a whole bunch of usability features which make it a kinder physical space like it's got facing you can turn towards things mm-hmm um even listen to them you know we've you can't pick your turn away from them that's amazing and it's got all kinds of things like this and there's a devil that he's doing for people that I've signed up to a couple times and I've just never been able think they've all group demos for the art to get to CP OHRP he's done ton of thinking about it and that feels to be like it's a really conceptually important thing yes heard of a few years of my antenna were so deep and pilchuck yeah yeah david brin number one smart man so anyway how this relates to to weave trust for crypto kids as almost like if you made basically decentralized Twitter sort of kind of social media thing people interact and you can interpret those interactions as signals yep trust circles and so on yep so basically you can interpret because of spam every interaction on on a puter there's a Turing test and if you click spam or delete one follow that person that means you have failed at they fabric math test yeah yeah the ones you continue to interact with yep are the identities that are real and you might know someone only as a as an avatar and a name and it doesn't really matter you can still have a relationship with whatever that is it doesn't it's not really a I think there's a one of the nice past in centers that you can have a you can present yourself out with it he you like young yeah right so you've got this ability to generally these kind of personas but your suggestion they're basically performed into existence yes that one [27:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=1650s) yeah yeah and that's one place on a spectrum of identity that's sort of um that's more to one Ian where you have a pseudonymous performative situation but I think that is the superset of the you can fit like a global public identity into that just by associating one of these performant ideas and entities with your physical body yeah yeah yeah and that's intrusive so you've got us potentially a set of performative identities you'll link them to your physical body yeah as a way of kind of credentialing them something like that yeah well for whatever purpose they didn't deserve Oh quite quite interested in things like certificates of biometric unique lives mm-hmm so you can prove it some kind of zero knowledge way that every single person and auction binds to a different biological human being ah yeah that's that's a very um [Music] that's a very difficult problem because so you can in a decentralized way you can prove that a public key you really are in public it yeah as you can't prove that your arm and iris yes because ours is a symmetric cryptography symmetrical cryptography essentially yeah yeah and your fingerprints might be unique but you leave the one everything you touch absolutely the password you can change yeah exactly so um the approach I trip to that seem em wars that you would have and things that were like biometric notaries mm-hmm so you could turn up in a bank or something like that mm-hmm and you know slap your keys on your head on the table yeah and they would then perform the binding for you mm-hmm and what they would issue would be a certificate of insurance that these two human beings were not the same person right you know you've seen a we've seen be you know both of our branches verify that they do not have much but I've a together for their the same person you can vote for now mmm and and what they would give you a digital certificate ensuring that up to a million two million five billion and the more expensive the transaction the more they would charge for that certificate of insurance so the business model would be insurance again yeah identity fraud no that's what they would use to pay for the hardware nah but I couldn't think of anything short of that wouldn't work huh well when you get to nessa's what is [30:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=1800s) this important for and well so it's incredibly important in situations where you don't want to disclose an identity so I walk in I walk up to you know a car rental place or the certificate that says here's one hundred and fifty thousand bucks worth of insurance that I am known to what's a citibank mm-hmm right this second bank has my biometrics on file here is a sir you can verify that that surprised me but we're not going to give you any of my identity information mm-hmm so what I get a few is a insurance rather than identity hmm and at that point you could potentially move through the world relatively anonymously yeah because your conduct is vouched for by your insurers mm-hmm it's a kind of an insurance centric model because I'd only need to know your identity if I want to recover costs against you and you have the criminal whereas if I could just prove that I have insurance to do this you could just let me run around like a crazy person because if something goes wrong you can sue yeah and I think that that approach where basically people are preceded by this kind of like in this nimbus of insured pneus though i have the nimbus of insurance i can absolutely take this jet ski through the streets of abstract mm-hmm or whatever it happens speed like you can imagine people being you know indentify to do all kinds of otherwise forbidden behavior because there's nimbus insurance everybody says like what if this goes wrong we get entertainment and money yeah reach there I'm not sure that specific that actually necessarily requires biometrics like it doesn't point I think we're we're biometric we're like that you are one unique person becomes important there's things we want to have some kind of photo and theologian where's Ben entities can probe my finger pick the most popular answer and you want to avoid a civil attack yes which is civil attack was no one under many other names as well civil as civil attackers that pure science term but you have politics tree of astroturfing will you hire a fake grassroots movement yep um we've seen some simple attacks without sock puppets yeah we are so correct mr. gamergate recently was a simple attack smear sock [32:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJBXK9DZNCo&t=1950s) puppets yeah meh smell so dumb of of like fake accounts pretending to they're all relevant role by five pretending to have a mess over supporting basically the innocents yep and the faucet on things like eBay and so on you have a problem we are you command like you can create fake vision by generating a whole bunch of quite different other accounts yeah pretending to trade with yourself yes absolutely empty and it will create a good feedback and then third --- End of [275] 1. 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