# Goldsmiths talk on life extension and fluid language (part 1 of 2)

> One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [253], part 1 of 2. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/<id>.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages.

## Where this source sits

- Source: video, 2019-10-15 (YouTube upload date), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k. Text: automatic captions, partly corrected
- On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the law step (Mattereum, 2017), before the great powers step (Multipolar Realpolitik, 2024).
- How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): Futurism side work on long life and language.
- Career works it belongs to:
  - The New Economy: out of money, out of time, but not out of ideas (2010): One-page paper: the richest fifth are eating the planet, so the next economy has to be at peace with other... (suggested by machine)
  - The Big Deal (2011): Four-essay blog series arguing that government has hit hard limits, so civil society, working with... (suggested by machine)
  - A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine (2014): His "very conservative vision" for global change: six or maybe eight machines everyone on earth should... (suggested by machine)
- Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of:
  - RMI to spiral: Resource economics, from the Rocky Mountain Institute to the spiral economy. (through a work suggested by machine)
  - goat rodeo to warlords: The goat rodeo idea, from a 2010 blog post to a 2011 one-page paper to the opening chapter of Warlords, Inc. (2015). (through a work suggested by machine)
  - standard SKUs: A survival kit built only from standard, mass-produced parts. (through a work suggested by machine)
- Topics: meditation / lineage / spiritual (25%); culture / history / fiction (17%)
- Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: life extension (5 here; 14 sources in all, earliest dated 2011); Estonia (4 here; 13 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); 30-year plan (2 here; 4 sources in all, earliest dated 2019); Silicon Valley (3 here; 37 sources in all, earliest dated 2014, 1 undated); refugee shelter (2 here; 30 sources in all, earliest dated 2002); Mars (2 here; 34 sources in all, earliest dated 2014); consumerism (1 here; 12 sources in all, earliest dated 2010); Collapsonomics (1 here; 15 sources in all, earliest dated 2009, 1 undated); standards (3 here; 87 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 3 undated); vaccines (1 here; 21 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 4 undated)
- The earliest dated source in this archive for (undated sources may be earlier): 30-year plan
- Importance: core-text score 0.32 (1.00 is the top), number 224 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation
- Related sources:
  - [724] [Roundtable Discussion with Vinay Gupta and Bryan... (2024)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/724.md): close in content (cosine 0.93)
  - [800] [Lecture by Vinay Gupta at the opening event of Data in... (2022)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/800.md): close in content (cosine 0.92)
- On the same works, just before: [752] [Vinay Gupta: The Cities That Will Walk Away (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/752.md); [254] [Vinay Talk Amsterdam October 2019 (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/254.md); [758] [#3 Vinay Gupta, Indexing the physical world (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/758.md)
- On the same works, just after: [777] [CCForum London 2019/Vinay Gupta. Blockhain and the... (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/777.md); [718] Conversations #5 - Vinay Gupta (2019); [191] [My Thoughtmenu on Enlightenment | The Bucky-Gandhi... (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/191.md)

## Reading it

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Cite as: Goldsmiths talk on life extension and fluid language, video, 2019-10-15, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [253], https://guptaoption.com/texts/253.md.

Other speakers' passages are removed, so there can be gaps.

## Passages, part 1 of 2
[0:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=0s) alright guys I'm super happy to have been a Gupta with us today Vinay is a software engineer cryptocurrency expert he launched the blockchain platform in theory and in 2015 which I think just corporate managed ok Vinay is a Collapsonomics theorist although when I was on the phone to him I wrongly attributed that to someone else but maybe that's a couple because it means you know your ideas are out there in the world even expert in failed states environmental class and other things that could go wrong that we haven't thought of yet he's kind of professional pessimist those are my own words you've done consulting work with the Ministry of Defense the Pentagon and I'd like to know how that he's a mentor of the heck seer which is an open source refugee shelter so again it's interested in how technology can help the lives of the poorest worse so yeah it's going to talk about what it means to think the future yes yes okay this is the people of my houses and so although I talk about the house in a while I think given the audience we all talk first of all by the time because the us wagner spoke word teacher so I want to start with a story about Mao and I don't think this story is true but the story is that he was once asked but French what he thought with the French Revolution and the

[2:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=150s) answer was too soon to tell so I'm an Indian half Indian half scale and the Indian half of my family stays in the same place for roughly a thousand years spent most of their time teaching in universities the Scottish half of my family there's no idea who they were what you were doing possible by two hundred years ago and even that two hundred years is very big because they've lost records on the postman the time scales the different cultures operate on are completely different so when we start talking about the future the question is whose time scale are we thinking about are we taking about the future on a very short line Wester time scale where 25 years is a long time are we thinking on an Asian time scale where I was taught meditation techniques which are said to be six to eight thousand two completely different conceptions of the future are we thinking 500 years or a thousand years ahead are we thinking in terms of two three four year cycles does this make sense as a starting point for thinking about the future so recent history right a thousand years ago French Vikings invaded London and took over of loose agglomeration of feudal states which became known as the United Kingdom right we colva the Norman Conquest have happened in 1066 and that's really for most purposes the start of English history right beyond it's not really England it's a conglomeration of other units the languages are different there's very little historical continuity for any structure in British society 3 1066 bits and pieces of the church bits and pieces local tradition but that's basically where the clock starts the things you currently think of as being European civilization with Science and Industry and all the rest of that really only goes back about 400 years prior to that point there were all farmers nothing else was happening do you have sense of touch short this history is compared to Chinese history when you guys were tall Chinese history in high school how far back did you go

[5:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=300s) those the years of Chinese history was taught to you start again no I mean how long did you say 5,000 years ago right so your mobile of history that you were 12 as a child goes about 5,000 years the European model of history that they're called escapes goes back maybe a thousand years maybe 2,000 years or two and a half thousand years if you're a talented right we think of the Greeks is being the kind of origin of civilization and that's really for two and a half thousand three thousand years ago right you have bureaucratic institutions in China which are twice the age of European cities so when it comes to thinking about the future we have completely different dialogues in different cultures because we have completely different models of the Pops has anybody spent much time in America okay when they teach American history how far back do they start [Music] at 1776 you know when they have the resolution maybe fifty years before not so they go back almost 300 years and that's American history right from a Chinese perspective 300 years of who would succeed before yesterday so amount of what it looks like to be an American for history only started 300 years ago and everything is fresh and new and the world can be completely transformed and change and you can make your own spam undefined on top versus being Chinese or Indian where the story starts maybe thousands of years ago and the present is very small and very short if you're an American and you live now let's say 75 years you're good to live for quarter as long as America has existed it's a quarter of history right that's equivalent to being a thousand years old as a Chinese person so the cultures completely mobile time differently and because they've all time differently they model the future differently and the mobile progress differently right the Americans run extremely quickly because they have no past and therefore they have no real sense of the future if you say to an

[7:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=450s) American 500 years from now this is like Ziegler Chinese person 15,000 years in the future the scales are completely different from one culture to another now does that explain a lot of the differences that you see between Chinese European and American culture just blend to the history hopefully different things work and this goes all the way through and things like what people educate their children do how we think about our heroes in America there are no historical figures from know beyond two hundred fifty years ago right there are no great heroes of history because they hardly list really the great news of the day before yesterday what this gives is an enormous attachment to the present right if there's a signal to finding American trade it's that Americans live right here and right now they don't think about 20 years in the future they don't think about a hundred years in the past everything around them is continuously they'll pour down a building remember that practically new 200 euro buildings in America even the country is 200 years old because everything is built in port buildings port building towards now this race is the first big question I want to post it is something which is 200 years old just a pod we call the civilization simple question right how old do you have to be before you get to be a civilization right what if America is just a trend what if Europe is a cultural what are you happy on the table before you get the title civilization how old you have to be have stabled you have to be working to endurance you have to show before civilization is the right word to describe what you are you see the question that arisen and the folks that destroyed Rome were called the Goths and the Goths came in anything you drew but that process of the goth invasion of Rome happened over probably two or three hundred years it was wave after wave after wave and ruined the climb very slowly during that period that's about as warm as America has

[10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=600s) existed right you see the question I'm raising we're in a position right now where if the world is in state of economic and ecological collapse largely because of the enormous ly intense consumption patterns that you see in Europe and America and those consumption profits have spread to the rest of world among the elites but for the most R this pattern of consumerism and hyper consumption is a product of Western civilization and Western civilization is only 200 years old there's no fall for how we're going to continue to farm this London 500 years because 500 years is you inconceivable I mean I suspect that there are areas in China where the mobile of Agriculture for hundreds of years into the future thousands of years ago which is by the longest afar time right certainly that's true in India there are farms in India where they do the same thing in the same way you know for hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of years I'm allowed to sell fertile because he didn't carry in the entire central section of America the spot the soil was basically cease to function as a biological system and it's more or less just used as an absorbent amount for pouring fertilizer and pesticide activity it doesn't actually function as a biological system and anything like the more productivity required of food so as we get into the rest of this set my expectation is that the century will be defined by a very hard conversation between the old cultures and the young cultures about who gets to make decisions in the world biggest frankly these guys have classes as an Indian a little what Western civilization is about the worth of resources to be sold for my country 45 trillion pounds of most recent estimates over the entire period of Indian colonization what did they do as anything that greatly created other than vaccines made atomic reactors really not very much done and this kind of shifting of perspective I think is the critical plague that we're going to see over the next hundred years but just

[12:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=750s) to say over in your wife's in all probability position the change in positioning between European and American culture and the rest of the world is going to happen over topics like climate change over topics like deforestation hey you guys are consuming the vast majority of the world these waters with a very small part of the world's population we have a problem we thought and we achieved sustainability thousands of years ago which is why our civilizations are many thousands of years old your supply station has not yet achieved sustainability which is why you care to be destroying the planet because nothing's is sustainable like five thousand years of continuous history I mean is that multiple sustainability looks like you keep doing it year after year after year nothing collapses does this make sense can I see how this looks and so don't want to talk about life spot right let's see so most of your 25 were younger okay so a rich amount if you expect to live to be 75 you guys will expect to die for 75 if you expect to live into at least 75 years of age raise your mouth that means all of you unless you think you're gonna daughter's really soon the Quran silence how many people one hundred and fifty and fifty two hundred three hundred four hundred five so life expectancy in America in 1900 was 45 years old life expectancy doubled for Americans in the 20th century and many other places over the

[15:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=900s) 20th century life in space so these life expectancy dumping as a dad it's life expectancy doubles again in the 21st century it's reasonable to expect that you would have life's responsive around 150 to 200 so that means that you will see all of the 21st century and most of the 22nd century is anybody ready for them right you have a cultural model where you think you're gonna live about as long as your grandparents lived but actually the entire scientific technological apparatus is oriented around sending your values as long as possible and medicine has become unrecognizable amazing every friend from shoulder surgery recently and you know they don't do crazy things for sure they're basically sound both pieces of a pole I was expecting him to come back you know with an enormous cast and interaction will rest on stuff I've been a six-month recovery dude instead he too cuts less than one centimeter in size and the entire thing to be done though sure they just put a little drill did what we had to do pulled my hair became a recovery temple and that's happened all across Madison I have another trend hood one of his vertebrae removed recently and replaced with titanium the Kula vertebra from the spine he was walking again in three days in to see a doctor we thirty years since I first got an understanding of how medicine work so how good is Medicine going to be in 25 years genetic medicine chrisberg all kinds of abilities do things like alter the chemistry of the body it's incredibly precise ways using things like nanotechnology the ability to groom new organs for organ fails and implant it but it's your own DNA so there's no rejection all of this stuff is coming and this is before we get to consider really crazy things I've uploaded your mind or Chloe so minimally right last civilization brings minimally you've got

[17:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=1050s) 150 to 200 years but imagine what the technology would look like in two hundred years at that point we probably will be able to scan a human being at out my tiny beak an exact replica but this thing without all the forms we've grown your body and brain into it we can bring bring possible so it's very realistic think about this as you're going to be around for multiple centuries an American today in Silicon Valley young America probably has a lifespan longer than the entire history of the country do we have any help through accomplice does anybody know what to do with you for five generations before basically just going to die the first you already see this in many countries where the pension systems were beginning to break because they've got enormous numbers of old people who live forever and very community connected beautiful country that has a problem really badly right now Spain in Spain Switzerland absolutely Japan already you're seeing countries that are relatively stable but have deep health care the old people would a really long time they're not having so many people are coming too many kids and as a result he wind up with a massive distortion in the old model which was a few that China went through that transition 30 40 50 years ago very rapid transition most of you will have families but there are much fewer many pure young people than the rule everybody is going through that demographic transition in different places but those young people are also likely live incredibly so what I'm suggesting here is that the fundamental structures of human culture are changing because of technology in ways which reach right inside of the family birth control life extension would for mortality pension systems all of these systems together are changing how we

[20:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=1200s) relate to the world how we relate to each other and a super-deep by the way if you had taken you know magic pill back to any previous culture and given it to them and their people that live 150 or 200 years rather than 60 years imagine how that would have changed everything about our culture everything would be turned inside and that's what's happening to us right now right now our culture is turning inside out because we're going through a series of changes where technology changes how our bodies work in ways which calls us to live much longer and far from each other where do we look for guidance on how to manage a world which works as though what source can you look to for some kind of intelligence or allow you to understand how to comprehend the world which has life spawns of these kind of levels I don't think there is it so we're a position for our entire species is being confronted by a completely unprecedented situation which is the sudden rapid increase of the length of life and that changes everything about our debates everything is transformed I'm gonna pause for a moment for any questions any questions okay so let's move on to the next thing and video is playing here if this refugee shelter so we go back so in 2002 I got very interested in the topic of climate refugees and they designed an emergency shelter for so the point of this thing is the walls are one point two by two point four meters which is the standard size for everything which is made in a panel and industrial production all of your cardboard all of your heart moodle's your plastic sheets out of a new sandwich models all that stuff comes from outside so the wall is just six pieces that size from their sides are half sheets so you take a lot of these

[22:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=1350s) pieces 4 foot by 8 feet one point two by three point four meters you cut it in half you put your knees together so that movement says you can design reasonable housing for 250 dollars a unit with the entire production process being that you cut six sheets of material at half other you fasten all the pieces together into small houses this thing was designed with the expectation that it was going to take 30 years to go from a prototype to a fully deployed wall capacity because the need will be maybe fifty million units of housing of this kind or better to go from one unit to fifty million units you can't run production that quickly all the people who you have to convince that this is a good idea before they're doing something about that have to be convinced people have to take years and years and years to get used to the idea the institution's new bureaucracies typically you have to have a rollover of staff where people we people take over before you see radical shifts in how people use new develop the humanitarian world like the United Nations changes very very slowly so having designed this the question was how you would have managed working on a project continuously for 30 years how do you keep something funded for 30 years if it's a company it was very unusual for a boss for 30 years most companies they grow they get acquired they have all the products that sold to somebody else and you know or they go bankrupt or people just quit doing them and do something else 30 years is a long time for the average company is only the Fortune 1000 for seven years that big companies do it Steve Baker very lonely charities similar dynamics only the biggest Charities lost a really long time most of the smaller charities relatively short time periods also charities don't scale even the biggest Charities the world are not very very good companies certainly none for charities have enough money to these 50 million houses so excited with charity I might end up with five or six employees and it might even stable for one or two decades but the

[25:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=1500s) end of that process we probably probably built 50 or 100 thousand houses it doesn't work so what I decided to do was run this as an open source project so like Linux or like Wikipedia no copyright no partner available for people to be where they'd like to once this was set up because the intellectual property was given away and lots of other people we got building and reason I was referred to think of Burning Man so Burning Man is an american festival where the whole of Silicon Valley and many other tech people from lots of different walks of life and an increasingly large number of kind of what I'm doing types the average now persisting musicians come into the middle of an enormous blazing desert color parking and this thing goes on for about a week and it's possibly the world max the installation art festival enormous machinery huge vehicles to be decorated to look like a variety of things pirate ships dragons and so on and it's basically where self involving goes to recharge the batteries roughly 70,000 people go every year roughly a quarter of those people stay in this shelter or a descendant of this shelter called a ship as a result everything Americans go into this crease future once a and they're getting exposed to a crazy future idea and so what I'm attempting to do is engineer large-scale cultural change by slowly working the idea into society as if it was normal oh that thing has always been here how else would you solve the problem so rather than branding it as new exciting amazing crazy you can make a lot of money doing this the attempt is we need to basically disguise it as something which is always been there and it's the obvious result before it's an attempt to kind of quietly cause the idea to be adopted well without showing people that it's an incentive and this is a perspective shift because normally when innovations are pushed the innovations of Coos very very very hard people want me to think about the great

[27:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=1650s) new thing and they won't be pushed forward in a very so directed way this is a kind of ambient innovation the ideas turns up in places and it's adopted as a norm which is much more akin to standards process and technical standards of building this way all the time where somebody will propose something as when you standard and then that new standard will be ratified as a cupcake here's the standard remail you know there's the standard for web pages visa standard for video of image compression and the standards have that much fanfare and then people are gently encouraged to adopt the standard and after a few years the standard has become standard if you're going to be a refugee house why do that even easier it's down always be and this again is part of the difference in approach when you think about a project which will take 30 years versus a project which is going to take three or four years so if I start in this and I said I'm going to give this five years and I'm gonna get as much as I can about in five years and then after that isn't a huge success have been good with something else I would have taken a completely different approach it would be a venture capital funded project and we've spent a bunch of other people's money building units I would have preferred to tell our videos amazing I've ever gotten a couple of pilots them and then in all probability it would have stopped and nothing else would have happened because we would simply have run out of energy matter because it move too quickly we could be sustainable and when I just say who that was going to do this I was 30 so what it was 30 I mean a qualm for my next 30 years which is going to be get listening to scale can anybody moms with coming the thirty near plop turns out if you have a 30-year plan you live lead me differently so if you don't have a third of your plot just a third of your cloths I put a long time yeah no I'm gonna live two or three hundred years see tiny boo scales are completely different because of technology and that means our plumbing for our futures possibly will be different because of Technology I can't imagine what the

[30:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=1800s) world is going to be like in let's say you're 2,300 but I think there's better than a 50/50 chance like good because life expectancy continues to increase medical technology continues to get better genetic medicine continues to get better that are already protocols for life extension drugs geppu roughly 25% and the lifespan of Iraq and I'm sure that a lot of people in Hollywood are taking my stuff does anybody see the recent picture of our extortion seventy years old looks like a baby a slightly backwards 50 and you can still bench press a car it's not natural is that exercises that drugs is it all three these look the best medicine in the world can just assume to be aging very early and that's very common in poly because they have a lot of special status so what would it look like not to have a 30-year plan but a century what does it take to be the best in the world at something but people have a century to practice I mean take something who doesn't change much Indian classical Thomas into classic the balance hasn't changed very much in a really long time right I don't even know humble and a cousin the teachers it they're referring regularly to texts that are yeah 400,000 years old when they're working this stuff I don't know very much about Chinese culture calligraphy might be similarly over to China as anybody knows how old the oldest Chinese calligraphy the new Hobbit is the sub people see a museum for private collections could easily be posters certainly effects so if you're going to become the best in the world at something like getting possible balance in a world with people with hundreds of years you'd have to start practicing that would be expectation that you will be learning for six or eight decades you can spend literally the same amount of time that you're grounded just being a beginner in a world for people with perceptions you see mrs.

[32:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=1950s) like it's deeply weird we've been living about this long for a really long time although the average life expectancy in the US and 1990 was four to five the people that made it to 45 tended to live till 60 70 80 in much the same way that they do not exist of what people died young and that's true if you go back a thousand or two thousand years the oldest penis still lived till 70 or 80 years old it's it's far fewer people made it but the change which is happening because of all those medical technology isn't that you're gonna live till yeah 80 or 90 in that would be a it said that 80 or 90 you ceiling will continue to lift faster than you age so the age of which the oldest people died will continue to go up faster than you get with that what kind of problems is that world would face overpopulation me but it seems like most cultures basically slow down the river to having children the enormous amount of slow down continues to increase resources if you have those kind of technologies probably you can figure out how to stretch the world social resources far enough people because if you have the kind of technology to constraint your life security three centuries you certainly figure out how to get people around the planet without destroying the atmosphere in the process food similarly probably biotechnology possibly farming certainly if we stop eating the noodles beef frees up something like fifty percent of the world's bar while woman try and point out here is just how alien the future listen to me and this is before we start thinking about artificial intelligence or robots or space travel or virtual reality or great computer interfaces or any of the rest of that stuff right I picked a single thing which is life extension because it makes the probable obvious but there are so many other areas where we've got change of this kind of habit that it's very very very hard to see how it's gonna be how do we conceive what that future could possibly be like how

[35:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=2100s) can we imagine being a two or three hundred-year-old person we never think of myself you know how can I imagine being a 300 year old man in a world where the distinction between human beings and robots is completely dissolved no prettier occasion that we ask your friends so did you start as a person or if you start as a machine and you know it's not at all unlikely but this is the kind of future that most of the people in this room will live will live it there's a fundamental structural change in the fabric of reality brought by Diwali you know if we think about the mind what do we really know about the mind seems be tightly associated with the brain computer scientists to look at the brain and say that's basically a computer if the brain could do it we can make a computer do that and in the past 10 years of machine vision has gone from not working at all to being basically perfect really really good so if we have very very good quality machine vision systems and we didn't have those systems and years ago and do you guys use Google Translate for things I use it a lot machine translation was thought to be one of the Holy Grails of artificial intelligence right the way from the beginning of artificial intelligence in the 1950s a main concerns everybody thought machine could translate intelligent machine now we have Google Translate and the other machine translation systems we use them all the time nobody thinks wow that's artificial intelligence but it is if the machine under something looks well enough to translate it into German and back basically the loss the Machine under stomp attacks what is under sudden you could mean a hundred companies so we got Fisher we got translation and all kinds of amazing things happening with digital are you also seen pictures where they've taken the style of somebody like Paco and then apply to the photograph all of that stuff is amazing twenty years from now what other

[37:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=2250s) challenges will be solved 30 40 years from that will computer to be able to think like people it's so to be different from the rats one project another project development and scanning the Britain increasingly high resolution to enable us to take the knowledge of the brain aren't represented in suffer sounds crazy coming the world quite nicely we already have computer systems that can tell the difference between you thinking about the color red and you thinking about the camera blue and that's today's technology 30 40 50 years from now computer systems that can scan your thoughts and respond immediately creepy comments it could be as common a self you visualize the room with the lights or the lights often the lights immediately change feeling that so 300 year old mom with a bunch of friends that might have started out with robots but everything kind of looks the same now right in a world where you can change the way the material world works just by thinking about it and that's not something that happens to future generations because of the life extension that's probably something that happens to us so the question I want to put proposed here is what is a good thing to do with remix five or ten universe if you expect to live till three or five hundred how do you spend each decade moving towards this is not to say that life's would be easy and simple right we have to do climate change we have to deal with atomic weapons we have to deal with human stupidity which is a really powerful force we have to manage all the other problems that we have to deal with get to this nonetheless you spend some of your time and energy quantity for a harder future but you also have to spend something through climbing into quantum for better you need a portfolio some things where things are worse some opens for things are better so what is a smart thing to do over time in your twenties but it's the easiest finally we're going to have to learn new things what is a smart thing to do with your time in that time period any suggestions

[40:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=2400s) what's a good way of educating yourself for a community or life is it pop music is anything produced in popular culture going to help us manage a 300 year life salon teez nobody is talking about this stuff apart for a few crazy people in Silicon Valley a bunch of scientific researchers are working the underlying technology so my suggestion is that there's a huge by the volume of looking life experiences of people from the distant past because if you leave something that was written 500 years ago or a thousand years ago or 2,000 years ago or 3,000 the human experience has changed enormously from those people's life sitar lives total transformation has occurred in the material environment total transformation has occurred in Bob something about human nature appears to be I'm changing for this time period right I can read translations translations very old Indian texts and they recognize old the patterns of thought long the attitudes to life that material is still current across renewed interest in southern Pahlavi the Greek forcibly stoicism that material was also about two and a half thousand years old so the more we talk into the fundamental structures of human experience before we can move forward into this world of massive discontinuous change in a way that will allow us to begin to focus on what is essential and a deep enough level that surface changes like life extension don't cause us to lose our bearings fulsol because we don't want to be in a position where we lose perspective on our own lives just because we begin to live far more than the expected is this make sense you're looking for things which are constant over such a long period of time and even us the

[42:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=2550s) world begins move forwards those constants don't change so fast that you lose orientation and this is essentially a process for philosophers the people have thought moves but the fundamentals of human life are false first and their problem with the people that have to move to say about a long-term trajectory to the beings and the other group that are worth thinking about when we think about this scale are artists but for whatever reason we've generally preserve farmer philosophy for the pops in the art yeah we put entire books that are thousands of years old with the philosophical tradition like all the stuff we've go over the plate and what we've got far far far less the artistic stuff didn't save you actually the greedy stuff would go up we plays but it's very rare for us that large volumes artistic work from the distant past I don't know how much you'll change this stuff you are completely toxic very well but certainly we've got very little like rule in popular culture we have no idea what the use of singing comes it's a reasonable question right what is wrong in the same way they were drunk we don't really know there's anything else I should cover at this level some won't cover it for this kind of stuff we also publish and distance so the other thing that comes up here too big way is title relates very tightly to distance so the faster you move the closer things seem because the length of time it takes to get there changes if you have access to a water and train network you could go 100 kilometers in half an hour under 50 kilometers if you have access to nothing but first foreign car to go the same hundred 50 kilometers is going to take you three or four days so as we move faster and faster and faster tiny'mon begins to subjectively shrink but I was a child I wanted a piece of information that wasn't in my house it would typically take me two weeks to get booked through interlibrary loan so my title question to answer was measured in technique charts now the time for question to answer as a few seconds

[45:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=2700s) regression so in all probability transport will continue to get faster the interfaces to computer retrieval knowledge will continue to get faster even if we spread out across the solar system in all probability will take the entire knowledge basement with us even if you're traveling quite long distances between planets type will still be relatively short it's up to them you start going to other stars that you get to talk about very very slow travel that even the most ambitious systems that we've imagined it's still good to take something like 20 years to get them years to start back and that assumes that you're going to use a continuous chain of atomic weapons detonated behind you to propeller ships called Project Orion it's meant to invent in the 1950s and it would have whoever's to send proves from the start I've been known to meetin's digits in the building for some reason 13 nuclear bombs pretty much the only way to know if you the ship's in project Orion system this is a real thing we've got all the papers we've got all the studies we have all the signs and the shipping a project the writing system with the size of cruise liners so you have these enormous shapes they've literally built at a shipyard deck down today and then underneath the times at the time the top starter and plate with the thick springs between the ship and the plate and then hold onto the plate the numbers were perfectly packable so yeah mostly I would say basically about the scenario is in a world that has these kind of options technologically in all probability at least some people will try and get to other stars to take a look around and see what's going on so the one thing that might counterbalance the sense of incredibly one life armed you know huge changes comes up is when you start talking about going to other stars these are credibly warm eyes suddenly begin to get kind of short because if it takes you 25 or 50 years to get down on the star system the same time to get back that's a third of your life time

[47:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=2850s) span so it smoked that all of these challenges go away and everything becomes easy we have infinite time it turns out that there isn't frontier there is a horizon so deep that it will take as much time as we can possibly give it because the longer your wife spa the further the travel out into space before you die and I don't know how much human beings will choose to make those kind of journeys but based on our history I'm sure that it was something go you want me to say that today good any questions but what we've covered so far good a few uncomfortable because that means you're thinking oh crap what do we do no Lisa it's very easy to sleepwalk your way into the future we've some great mechanisms of this device over here on which I'm recording this talk and they call that fool then when I was a travel a fool was both his tour I was connected to a wire I think also network and numbers he was quite there was a strong spring and the spring but it released generating electrical energy to send a signal for one talk to a switching equipment to tell them it was an electromechanical device that we a couple of kilograms right then he replaced them with modern films which took an electricity from the full network and used to talk to be data pods for Lucretia's about to be little beeping noises and every device provide electromechanical luck to this thing over here every step on that path was called solar and at no point if people carry it around and just be like wait a minute that would be the top 500 supercomputers in the 1990s what you that phone in 1982 would be the fastest computer in the world right but it's

[50:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=3000s) still people to film that entire period and they cost about the same as they always did right maybe they've got what we're expensive of high-end as they turn into sign else for the most part the phones cost of all the phones cost and we do that with everything pretty much everything that we look up we continue to use the old names even though the reality which is underneath the names continues to change very very rather does anybody cold connect hiking or mountaineering or scuba diving right even they thought they came to extreme sport all of those areas unbelievable technological change mostly material science so and you might use the term jacket right 50 years ago that meant something made of cotton that would get wet you stood in the rain for 15 minutes and now it means some kind of nanotechnology memory which will keep you dry for days if you start underwater same name and this happens for everything partly to protect ourselves from this very very rapid rate of change is the enormous tendency to use the same language sort of completely different objects as time passes so we produced a kind of insulated shell where we just used the same words jacket boom car but the actual objects which would be referred to become completely transformed cuz they need to be people to write in a south rugged car with the Tesla they're not self-driving all the way but you know the drivers can relax on motor ease because the car just takes care of itself is that a car it's like robot is that an artificial intelligence that you might form no it's a car carts of all was me well not really a hundred years ago the car required by two people to operate it and you know practically you didn't conic to travel with you everybody wet because the thing will break down to talk about total systems transformation and what is the thing that has changed the most over the course of your life so far think back when you were small children what is the single biggest area

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