# Goldsmiths talk on life extension and fluid language (part 2 of 2)

> One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [253], part 2 of 2. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/<id>.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages.

## Where this source sits

- Source: video, 2019-10-15 (YouTube upload date), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k. Text: automatic captions, partly corrected
- On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the law step (Mattereum, 2017), before the great powers step (Multipolar Realpolitik, 2024).
- How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): Futurism side work on long life and language.
- Career works it belongs to:
  - The New Economy: out of money, out of time, but not out of ideas (2010): One-page paper: the richest fifth are eating the planet, so the next economy has to be at peace with other... (suggested by machine)
  - The Big Deal (2011): Four-essay blog series arguing that government has hit hard limits, so civil society, working with... (suggested by machine)
  - A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine (2014): His "very conservative vision" for global change: six or maybe eight machines everyone on earth should... (suggested by machine)
- Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of:
  - RMI to spiral: Resource economics, from the Rocky Mountain Institute to the spiral economy. (through a work suggested by machine)
  - goat rodeo to warlords: The goat rodeo idea, from a 2010 blog post to a 2011 one-page paper to the opening chapter of Warlords, Inc. (2015). (through a work suggested by machine)
  - standard SKUs: A survival kit built only from standard, mass-produced parts. (through a work suggested by machine)
- Topics: meditation / lineage / spiritual (25%); culture / history / fiction (17%)
- Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: life extension (5 here; 14 sources in all, earliest dated 2011); Estonia (4 here; 13 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); 30-year plan (2 here; 4 sources in all, earliest dated 2019); Silicon Valley (3 here; 37 sources in all, earliest dated 2014, 1 undated); refugee shelter (2 here; 30 sources in all, earliest dated 2002); Mars (2 here; 34 sources in all, earliest dated 2014); consumerism (1 here; 12 sources in all, earliest dated 2010); Collapsonomics (1 here; 15 sources in all, earliest dated 2009, 1 undated); standards (3 here; 87 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 3 undated); vaccines (1 here; 21 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 4 undated)
- The earliest dated source in this archive for (undated sources may be earlier): 30-year plan
- Importance: core-text score 0.32 (1.00 is the top), number 224 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation
- Related sources:
  - [724] [Roundtable Discussion with Vinay Gupta and Bryan... (2024)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/724.md): close in content (cosine 0.93)
  - [800] [Lecture by Vinay Gupta at the opening event of Data in... (2022)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/800.md): close in content (cosine 0.92)
- On the same works, just before: [752] [Vinay Gupta: The Cities That Will Walk Away (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/752.md); [254] [Vinay Talk Amsterdam October 2019 (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/254.md); [758] [#3 Vinay Gupta, Indexing the physical world (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/758.md)
- On the same works, just after: [777] [CCForum London 2019/Vinay Gupta. Blockhain and the... (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/777.md); [718] Conversations #5 - Vinay Gupta (2019); [191] [My Thoughtmenu on Enlightenment | The Bucky-Gandhi... (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/191.md)

## Reading it

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Cite as: Goldsmiths talk on life extension and fluid language, video, 2019-10-15, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [253], https://guptaoption.com/texts/253.md.

Other speakers' passages are removed, so there can be gaps.

## Passages, part 2 of 2
[52:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=3150s) of change could be something like the health of a parent if one of your parents was sick or dying that could be radical transformation there could be radical transformations socially or culturally you could change countries like we're here now and you could get into a position where you have some hobby and everything enough healthy changes if you're a runner something just broke the two hour so the way that we construct our reality is we live a limited amount of attention to Asia things we can only see so much we can only know so much we can only model so much inside of our minds so for the most part at this point in history most of our mental apparatus is used to buffer change so the change is too rapid we find ways of dealing with change which make it less change but we still call this device of phone because it has the capability to make a telephone call does anything actually use their phone as a phone to me it's a weird day but I have to make a phone call I make maybe two phone calls nothing but nobody phones me I'm like disturbed by what's happening oh my phone is ringing wait it's a phone call no it's not a Skype call or a telegram message or something else try to just text some of the boxes but no go away right it's actually a phone call and it's wrapped in a social convention that existed because when I was a child from the food run it was an event Oh foolish look all right what's happened is he didn't pick up a food you wouldn't know I knew who had called you and once they left a message and you look like you had to buy a separate answering and this is within living memory and I'm not far so why do we still call it food rather than super well we call a fool because the thing that it evolves from this whole film is

[55:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=3300s) called all the without the first thing one is called a telephone which is now probably a hundred years old so the object is replaced by the next more complicated artifact but we continue to use the same name take the term jacket in 15 or 20 years probably most outdoor jackets will be heated batteries or electrical circuitry but it's cold your droplet will automatically move your body temperature it could also have active systems like electrostatic membranes our fans that will take heat away from your body when you're to home take moisture away from your body and in all probability right now that would be more what a spacesuit than it would be like a jacket the jackets which work that way or associated spaces but by the time that kind of clothing is we warned by ordinary people that you will still call a jacket we won't change the name to space unless you live in space and even if you live in space you might be so cold by jacket you're on Mars weird Ramarajan fit your market is absolutely just a job yet but it's objectively works on Mars which see vehicle space so all of those mechanisms that we use to protect ourselves from the knowledge of change music this term elephant rotate music how much is the electronic part changed metal turning music in the box of 40 or 50 years it started very very mechanical and very very 1919 Sierra Tac Toe you know there were about four noises of computer debate but no real tiny voice synthesis artificial intelligences listen to the music and then maybe help harinam boom called Krukow by America and it's an album where a woman sings along with a choir made of robots and she sings and they keep up and it's an entire album that was made this way it's unbelievable at the Pacific with filters right you can see a film even a film which isn't a special effects masterpiece

[57:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=3450s) even in order to refill the people driving around in cars even a romance film or a comedy will be filled right you know a shot off the Empire State Building there's no way to move on the options right there and we still use the term fill because one part of the story house change as you sit there you watch it but everything behind that part of the story is transitory so there is a tendency in the way that the human language works when we adopt a culture but if one part of the system is the same we still give it the same name that we gave it at the beginning process so one thing is unchanged well hang on to that name even though everything else washes out from underneath does this make sense think of these artificial food products right things like fuel or someone its food everything that came from normal food sources there is a starch in it became for a plant but for the most part its actual minerals and trace elements and sugars were made in a lab all combined together into a food like world we still call it food we'll still call it food right away from that process when you prove something in the microwave you know is it okay people will still call it could be microwave cooking you think but there's no chemistry so you know as as you watch the work try and have awareness of how language stays the same but reality shifts underneath language can only think of another example of language which is shifting that way right now and return America has shifted of all recognition in the past 20 years America in the 1990s was as different from America today as foon's in the 1990s were proposed today and that's not true for for example Switzer right so what's the one just really pretty similar to how it

[1:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=3600s) was 20 years ago in terms of our weeks at the world how to be blocked America total transformation and not even direct the term United Kingdom right we could break it to half a dozen countries in the next five years literally not us three or four and yet we still have this sense but it's the same political and to do this existed 4,000 the other way that we see this is definitions of normal so if you walk into a building and the building is like a basement so there's no cell signal and there's no Wi-Fi is that space normal or is that space Brooklyn right so 20 years ago if you walked into a basement there was no telephone that was no big deal if you walked into a basement and there was no telephone signal that was not unusual and it didn't matter though if you're good for a basement and there's no Wi-Fi and there's no cell signal it's like being cut off from the universe and it's like being a weird creepy place like hey I don't your basement there's no Wi-Fi I can't talk to it doc didn't used to be a reaction to being in place with no radio signals right if you go about 200 years ago the Attar world had no radio signals so when did it become normal first to expect radio signals to keep us connected to an invisible grid containing the messages from all of our friends as a normal part of life when did that become and just how the world is how does anybody have that experience abusers go someplace there's no cell signal in Figure one of this place is broken anybody have that experience receptors me like if you're at an airport and the Wi-Fi is that right and you know you don't want to pay $25 minutes for roaming like Oh couple so what happens is that we wind up with new infrastructure which becomes normal and running water right running water is pretty recent right I was talking to somebody yesterday who grew up in

[1:02:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=3750s) Tennessee in America in the late 70s and they didn't have running water in their house until the mid-nineteen seventies right when they were small kid no running water cold well watering at the pond and that was MC in the nineteen seventies now if you go into a building like a hotel they don't have running water of the building is broke right and electricity electricity wasn't there a hundred years ago now if you're going to build a condo electricity the building's program you're going to place with no Wi-Fi the building is broken you're going to a place where there's no cell signal building so what constitutes a building what makes you think that you're in a place where things work and everything correctly organized changes over time if we went about five hundred years ago and went into building and there were no servants chopping the wood and making the tea and keeping the fire going and sweeping the place and all the rest of that stuff you would say the building is brutal now that most of that work is not by machines vacuum cleaners central heating air conditioned kettles the definition of what makes the thing normal changes over time so when we say if we go to somebody's house the implicit mental model you have of somebody's house includes water electricity Wi-Fi robots to hold on to manual labor and for whether something's housing we didn't have those things they would be weird right if I invite you to come to somebody's house like what's good my friend jolin's place and go to John's place in John lives in a house with no electricity no running water no toilet no internet no electrical lights right John is weirdo he was in a cottage was that it's a longer house so that drift in norms or has the word who unchanged the actual thing which those words refer to changed that city country car computer planet all of those words are similarly in a process of transformation when we say the word superpower right right now that means things like nuclear weapons and aircraft carriers a huge industrial base in 30

[1:05:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=3900s) years superpower might mean did you both sing special intelligence which manages the entire economy and most of the national security apparatus country the government of Estonia which is a small country kind of and between Russia and Finland pretty much estonia knows there is a 6 pounder arrested words in there want to Russia if Russia decides that they want to retake Estonia because it's only used to be Russia if you want it back you know they could take it back very very easily the Silvius tiny Anna's new military the Russians could basically show up at one time with one flag of Russia but he's still nians keep all of the government records dirt but they have a very strong electronic government program where all the documents about identity and taxes and business registrations and all the rest of that stuff educational systems all the government record systems are stored on servers in Germany backups directly and these students have a clear idea that if they lose the watch to the Russians the government of the Sonia will continue to operate as an electronic entity and eventually the Russians will get more would get them there one buy it might take 25 years but Estonia as a country would continue to exist because they think that the administration is more important than the lot this is a genuinely weird situation and yet they're probably right certainly some cultures for to become refugees but managed to hold their cultures together for very long time periods because they were a moment or religious identity or a language for centuries and then at that point we could go back to the old ways once they were able to go back the hopping a bunch in Europe so what I want to leave you with is an understanding that if you don't watch language very carefully language will slide out from underneath your understand and you will use words in a conscious way right every time we refer to phone and just think so right if you don't have a little bit of alertness 10 years will go by and the food will develop some crazy new feature right what does that the thing that the fool might do in 10 years it doesn't you today I'm gonna suggest it might fly

[1:07:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=4050s) right the phone and the drone are used in very similar ways we both use it was copper us all the time right people are carrying drones as a separate device here is my drone here is my phone but the phone is used to control the throne because the app that runs the drone runs on the phone well you know if you had a fool the Hudson what were powered on it was very like or if detachable brutally for lending food you would just hold it in space tell it to fly up hold on to the left everybody would smile and it would take the picture so 5 years 10 years 15 years or 20 years how long before we think that phones will fly by default right how long for cards will South Drive by default a car as does the South Drive is now a broken car you cop a broken car rude crazy right what do you mean your phone doesn't fly it's out relic is a fossil how do you take selfies right how do you look for things when you lose them if your house doesn't have a brain so the tendency for language to drift right but for the open up the objects just so it really see the language definitions to the language stays the same with objects that language refers to just drift out it's very very strong do you ever get a moment where you're talking to your parents and this moment of incomprehension where they tell some story and something doesn't make sense and then you realize it's because it was in the old days and something wasn't the same way it is now you know but mom why didn't you just phone them well because it was before we had mobile phones that's a really common one so as we go through time on these very very long lifespans the thing which will cause us to be done unconscious and uncreated is if we continue to use language without understanding that the world is changing underneath us right if you don't think when you see a phone of all the previous things of the phone it's very very very difficult to hold all that the reality of what's happening in the situation and you become unconscious so you just use language in a habitual way without understanding that the objects of language refers to are changing over time then Mohamed's is you lose your

[1:10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=4200s) grip of reality and you begin to live in a kind of nostalgia hole to be able to live in a place which no longer exists because you use the word food to refer to the film as it was when you were 20 rather than using the word fill to refer to what's option economy and you ever talk to old people and see slippage whether they still use the words with the things that words refer to it completely changed do you ever do tech support for your grandparents if I explain to them what the computer does not parents or grandparents like why can't I print the file because we don't have a printer why don't we have a printer for the same reason we don't have a fax machine has anybody ever used the fax machine that used one younger folks have you ever seen a fax machine it was like a photocopier stuck to a photo and led you to photocopy documents by fooling somebody and the photocopy would come out of their fax machine rather than your fax machine and at the time this is revolutionary computerization of the world and so I think that is basically it right that's my new right you're gonna live a really long time the world will get very strange and language will update itself to tell you that the world has got very strange so the world will continue to get mirrors or weirder weirder but language won't change as a result it's possible to become unconscious of how much the world has changed in a way because you're thinking to become a kind of ineffective and slowly right you have to keep looking pass at measuring where you are to understand how much has happened and if you do do that practice is looking at the past and understanding how much has happened if you don't keep an eye on that change your mind will basically cover over the rate of change in the same way that it constantly walks out all kinds what little artifacts close by your eyes and just present you the coherent model of the world even though the world is not a creeper here and does guys know about the blind spot right you know where the place where the nerve enters your eye there's a little place where you can't see but rather than show you your boxful the brain just papers over it it's there but you could do this experiment reboot two crosses on a piece of paper remove it and then one of the advantages so the way that the brain

[1:12:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=4350s) relates the language and relates to change is the language constantly covers the blind spot so that we can't actually see the world changing around us as fast as the world is changing because we just use the same words through first things that we always used and as a result when we become kind of change blunt so my advice and the thing that I really want to focus on is don't become change plan right remain alert what's happening you know sometimes you want to look at the past five years about ten years about we told newspaper articles blue the old technology go talk to people to live do things that happened 30 40 50 a hundred years ago a hundreds meant to stretch but it won't be a future right so that you can begin to model change as being normal because if you don't model changes being normal when you're relatively young by the time you are fully out out and your mind has begun the hardened change will be surprising and shocking because if you model the world Andrew Young as a static place with a low rate of change when you begin to realize the world is changing it can be disturbed but if you model the world as being a place of just continue changing and continuing to be in flux and you go back to look at how much change since you were born us and your parents before it could give you a healthier attitude the word change which is it changes constant and we're constantly navigating and managing change [Applause] all right any questions yes what do I think of the relationship between humans and artificial intelligence in the future um so there's an old saying from AI that as soon as the software works it's no longer called artificial intelligence you know route planning machine translation image search and probably two or three other things have become completely routine but we no longer think of those things as being artificial intelligence will be very clear we are right South traffic cars crazy robot artificial intelligence oh no that's just south traffic car that's on AI and because people are really interested in the part of intelligence which is a machine that talks to it says

[1:15:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=4500s) hi I'm Bob the machine I know that I'm a machine I know that you're a person how're you doing and that is a teeny tiny part of intelligence right if you think about you know dogs or horses or birds they're very intelligent right the bird capable flying 5,000 miles and they never get lost how are they doing but you know dogs are capable of talent when a human beings in a foul mood 4/3 feet way and then intelligently adjusting their behavior around them so there are lots of kinds of intelligence which aren't verbal linguistic intelligence and the machines are very very very rapidly mastering all of those other kinds of intelligence which is home solution half right verbal rational man whistling intelligence is the last kind of intelligence we all after everything else so I think we might see enormous ly powerful artificial intelligences which don't use language interpreter not conscious but are still hugely impact in our lives in the way that we operate and then I think it's only the very last stages you'll begin to get something the husband identity if ever he is not completely convinced that artificial intelligence will be able to create a machine that says hang on a bulb and actually knows that it's bone I think there is a possibility I think it's not a strong possibility but I think there's a possibility that that might not turn out to be something like a computer to do and Bob we're just gonna have to wait and see on that because it's not really clear which way that goes but like with machine translation you know we really thought machine translation was going to be impossible until you had a machine that had an identity the understood what had been said that under stupid it was repeating under different audience and then it turns out to be about the statistics so yeah my prediction would mean it will wind up increasingly you know joined to complex artificial intelligence systems that will use tons of tons and tons and tons of tons every day but the after all final threshold of the machine which is self-aware it's probably a long way out and probably actually not that important okay a thousand requests all right it's nice

[1:17:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=4650s) so pretending the question was what about the future of empathy are we headed towards full misunderstanding or a global understanding and so a few seconds right I think that having too much empathy is part of office closed Western civilization to collapse because we started worrying we lured but multiple filled with what people do I thought led us to elect politicians that feel like they're doing the right thing even though the green moment enough tendency to worry more about the surfaces than 5 I think it comes from and too much empathy too much emotion let's say that okay you're talking about heavy utilitarian empathy yeah okay so it's the world is going to continue to be run bad we the causes a lot of suffering after needs a question so here so used to be I did a podcast with a couple of very very bright chipper Americans from LA right young optimistic cheerful media people right you know the type right so why said to that include it's much easier to understand the world right if you break away from than the falchion so the mythology is that we are civilized people that live in the next place and almost every culture tells itself this story well we're civilized we're fighting two people and we live in a nice place and people are basically nice but actually the data really doesn't support us right every culture ignores poor you know anytime you make it possible for people to abuse each other they will you know

[1:20:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=4800s) it's a really difficult place to have any kind of persistent coherent so a part of the narrative which says that we are basically monsters women hell and we have to work very hard to make the situation around us better to rise to the left would be even slightly human and I think that that is a much better fit for how most culture job moves at the time then this idea that we're nice people with a few problems we're actually not nice people we are super efficient predators with terrible problems setting limits on ourselves with having any kind of self control that's what we're destroying the entire planet to buy consumer goods to be throw away in three years right only crazy people and thinking of ourselves as being crazy bad people Cribbs much more room for improvement then imagine we're all basically nice people and then wondering why the world is perfect because there is this problem like it will basically feel like well you know we're nice people that we you know we're civilized people we live in a nice place if you think like that it's not clear where the problem right whereas if we think of ourselves to be basically like we're kind of all four and the world is kind of powerful then it trooper for the problem coming from makes it way to do something so I feel like part of what has to happen for us to get better work is it we have to admit that we've been kind of wrong both in the nature and what's interesting to me about this is the only kind of European and American political spectrum the left have a very optimistic on the Left have a very optimistic father were both in the nature right this is a kind of socialist balancing treat people nicely they'll work together they're cooperative all dressed up the right wing has a very pessimistic model human nature people are awful and the only way we can get society to work at all is by setting rules and we have to accept that strong will use natured world but we can stop it being too much and what I think we need is a kind of new way of looking at this which accepts that the right was basically correct about human nature the left is basically preventing about human aspiration and there's some very interesting work being done on this by an outfit called radical markets who basically are taking all the machinery of neoliberal capitalism and then trying to implement Swedish model socialism on top of it and that's really interesting because I think it begins to break away from the industrial model left-right

[1:22:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=4950s) divide and get into something which is a bit more posted by short of a power plant no I wanna talk a little bit about the moral side of it so I take all that we can learn from history by human beings is that human beings have not fundamentally changed their basic nature for the whole of recorded history right very little has changed society has changed structures of change environments change education has changed but the basic human structure is very very similar but if we won't forget a much nicer world right why don't we ultimate as much of the work of being moral as possible but food will know you know or my credit card right if I credit card sends a warning to my phone every time I find me or something that contains conflict minerals from Africa or something that was made by in a slave labor in Ottoman or something you know every time I do something like that if I got a warning or my car just doesn't let me spend the money hey you said you didn't want to do this I'm not gonna let you do it unless good for photo making over right people's behavior will change don't put it back on the show oh yeah it wasn't so kind so rather than thinking of like smacking people with a second till they become nicer which is moves with recorded history if we just accept that people are just kind of not that great we'd start then building systems to help correct them but human beings are we not moral enough to live in a nice society in the same way that we're way not strong enough to be able to lift things so we made a cream to make us stronger we made a computer to make that smart there why don't we also build machinery to make this more moral but to take away the thickness which make it easy for us to do evil and to make it much easier for us to do good machinery to amplify human morality seems like the one for wayforward and I think that would be large with software and finance but it might be other things as well but you know on the other truck if we don't say elevated morality we're screwed right no way for okay

[1:25:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=5100s) yes so not all forcibly but most velocity is concerned with things which are unchanging most of the philosophers were fundamentally interested in what is eternal what a static what is changeable some of those philosophers take a track where they assume that there's some kind of realm of perfect I'm changing things the kind of platonic forms or the indian equivalents you know all that kind of did with western pretends go down that way ancient philosophy buddhism but were interested in the idea that changes continuous right everything is a permanent bits of taoism head in that direction as well so given the weirder position which has these ultra high rates of change in ultra-high accelerating rates of change and the philosophers who were looking in the world thousands of years ago come to very sensible looking conclusions that we can still relate to tell us that it doesn't matter so much how rapidly things change or how much changes that are human invariants but to go back thousands and thousands of years that probably will be broken by the current technological shifts so the questions about morality goodness justice right wrong action the nature of mind and the nature of human experience the phenomenology stuff all of that stuff stays the same whether you're a three hundred year old being on a spaceship that isn't sure whether it started life as a robot or a person and or whether you are you know a Greek guy living under a barrel you know begging for food that's one of the most famous of Greeks first name and the attempted find invariants in human experience is part of the reason that I think that English helped her has such a reverence for Shakespeare because he's far enough back that the language is almost not quite English and but all the characters are fully identifiable as modern people like we know people that are much like a whole bunch of Shakespeare's characters at Shakespeare kind of reinforces on us the idea that not that much has changed particularly when you see a modernized production where they've made the language a little

[1:27:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XidoQmzl-_k&t=5250s) easier to deal with you know you really get to understand that these stories are kind of unchangeable I think that's also a lot of the value in old myths is that the characters act in ways which are identifiable and that's very helpful to us in terms of understanding what it is it's going on to those environments okay maybe one more question okay anything should we wrap it are we done okay

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