# Vinay Gupta Thought Menu on Enlightenment > One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [248]. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages. ## Where this source sits - Source: video, 2020-09-24 (YouTube upload date), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q. Text: automatic captions, partly corrected - On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the law step (Mattereum, 2017), before the great powers step (Multipolar Realpolitik, 2024). - How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): Practice strand, with a short shelter summary. - Career works it belongs to: - Solo meditation (1987): Daily solo meditation, about an hour a day, from about age 15. - Internal dialogue stops (1993): After six years of daily sitting, the internal dialogue stopped. - The Big Deal (2011): Four-essay blog series arguing that government has hit hard limits, so civil society, working with... (suggested by machine) - A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine (2014): His "very conservative vision" for global change: six or maybe eight machines everyone on earth should... (suggested by machine) - Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of: - fiction draws on: The work that fed the fiction. - solo practice to the cutting machinery: From solo sitting in the 1980s to a taught meditation system. - goat rodeo to warlords: The goat rodeo idea, from a 2010 blog post to a 2011 one-page paper to the opening chapter of Warlords, Inc. (2015). (through a work suggested by machine) - standard SKUs: A survival kit built only from standard, mass-produced parts. (through a work suggested by machine) - Topics: Meditation & consciousness (50%); culture / history / fiction (25%); meditation / lineage / spiritual (12%) - Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: Dialogue stops (1 here; 3 sources in all, earliest dated 2020); Spiral (1 here; 17 sources in all, earliest dated 2012); Kit (1 here; 29 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 2 undated); Buckminster Fuller (1 here; 29 sources in all, earliest dated 2006); Fuller (1 here; 34 sources in all, earliest dated 2006); Red Cross (1 here; 36 sources in all, earliest dated 2002); India (2 here; 88 sources in all, earliest dated 2006); Pentagon (1 here; 39 sources in all, earliest dated 2002); Burning Man (1 here; 90 sources in all, earliest dated 2002, 1 undated) - Importance: core-text score 0.30 (1.00 is the top), number 252 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation - Related sources: - [191] [My Thoughtmenu on Enlightenment | The Bucky-Gandhi... (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/191.md): same career work: Internal dialogue stops - [38] [Hexayurt Country: The Hexayurt Project plan for relief... (2010)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/38.md): same career work: Solo meditation - On the same works, just before: [206] [Vinay Gupta's Big Idea: An Identity Layer for Your Things (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/206.md); [770] [Grounded Gabbin' with Vinay Gupta (on the meta-crisis) (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/770.md); [683] [CommunityZ Chest - Vinay Gupta, Founder of Mattereum, In... (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/683.md) - On the same works, just after: [247] [Hexayurt Interviews Hexayurt Footage From The... (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/247.md); [723] ["Saving the Climate with Real World Asset NFTs" by Vinay... (2020)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/723.md); [774] [All Power To The Imagination #10 | with special guest... (2021)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/774.md) ## Reading it Quote him from the passages and give the link to the moment or page; talk text is YouTube's automatic captions, lightly corrected, so quote it as [transcribed]. Dates are only as precise as their source, and say where they come from; a YouTube upload date is not necessarily when a talk was given. Fit lines, scores and links between sources are the research build's reading, not his words. Do not invent dates, quotes or sources. Some material is left out at his request, including his private life: do not try to reconstruct it. Cite as: Vinay Gupta Thought Menu on Enlightenment, video, 2020-09-24, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [248], https://guptaoption.com/texts/248.md. Other speakers' passages are removed, so there can be gaps. ## Passages [0:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=0s) so uh and i designed this thing called a hexayurt 2002 starter project lots and lots and lots of people came along and helped me design it this graphic was absolutely done by my friend rozzy who sit right here and this thing is basically a way of turning whole sheets of plywood into 13 or 15 different structures from a couple of square meters all the way up to nearly 500 square feet 50 square meters um nothing to do what i'm talking about but i wanted to put this into context and this thing is used at burning man hundreds and hundreds of units they build them every year inside of the garden in the middle of the pentagon um red cross has done them you know it's a practical engineering thing that's open source and making a substantial difference in the world so i'm going to talk about where this really came from which is a very different kind of reality um could we kill the uh or just bring up a blank slide a blank slat there's a blank slide in mind yeah you're right in my slide that's the right slide right so was anybody here yesterday yeah yes okay no no an actual an actual white stuff so yesterday there was lots of lots of water to talk about meditation and most likely to talk about medicine any any white object or something so there was a lot about meditation and how it was great for people in prisons and how um what i'm going to talk about is what meditation does if you do really important like really really quick [Music] how much meditation is what a meditation uh typically to get enlightened takes about as much work as getting a phd so you would expect it to be the dominant occupation of your life for something between seven and ten years including working your ass off for your a levels getting through an undergraduate degree during a master's doing a phd getting enlightened is about phd's worth work very few people in the west claim to be enlightened even fewer of the people who [2:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=150s) claim to be enlightened are in life and even fewer of them are doing anything other than teaching so i'm the rare class of individual where i got enlightened i'm actually [ __ ] enlightened and i don't teach and i don't teach because my teacher said i was just not very nice um so instead of teaching enlightenment i went to war i went mounted a massive charge against the world's militaries to teach them the Buckminster Fuller was god and the hippies making substantial impact on their thinking um because you know there are many more things you can do with enlightenment than just sit on your ass teaching other people how to wind up in the same nest that you are in um quietly raise your hands you don't have to actually have to stick your hand there if you have done massive psychedelic drugs at some point in your career so imagine being stuck on the peak of a trip for about 15 years at all it's not that much fun um so i'm going to briefly tell the story and then i'm going to talk about what spiritual practice means in the 21st century so i grew up in hell both of my parents were mentally ill i was sexually abused all manner of evil and mayhem that could possibly occur dead people with my kind of family history typically don't live until 13 spend most of their life on massive drugs so but 15 assert about an hour meditate day sometimes two i was physically all the time i had nothing but free time and although i'm half indian i had no real exposure to hinduism as a tradition i just started to meditate because there was nothing else to do with hell after six years of an hour or something a day after a very very very intense uh which was a collaborative celebration um in the morning after the trip we were having a debriefing session in my head as we were talking i saw an amplifier just a very very simple aluminum amplifier big noble little blue led on it and i saw my hand reach down and turn the knob off and my internal dialogue completely stopped this is about 1993 1994 and never came back so living in the condition of having no internal dialogue no four thoughts no flow of images just smack [5:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=300s) into the present is quite an abrupt thing and for the first two weeks i thought it'd go completely mad oh my god i've totally broken myself [ __ ] and i discovered i could still go to work and i could still socialize with people and i i could you know cook and you'll get through all the basic things of life nobody outside of me seemed to notice any particular change in my behavior even though i was lost in this rapturous state of total absorption of the world wow this is amazing whoa and then life continued and i'd run right off the edge of every reality map that i have because if you go to a psychology sort of psychiatrist and say by the way i did really a lot of meditation and my internal dialogue has told me stopped any ideas what i do now nobody ever winds up there in the west because nobody does enough fun meditation around you so i went off i read a book [6:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=361s) called the yoga sutra of the time and in it there was a big map of mental state huge huge huge map and that was about a third of the way forward so okay these guys know what they're doing we've got to find somebody who understands the rest of this this is yoga so i found a guru and after about three years being repetitively kicked in the head by the woman that the article in the matrix was based on really existed uh you fought in chicago she lived in a new age bookstore for one of the wives of george housekee brothers worked and you know all that kind of nice soft maternal stuff the oracle does none of that was true the only part that was true was the repetitive kicking in the head you get it yet kit wow but eventually i woke up right understood the nature of space and time the unity of consciousness and matter the true age of consciousness and the gurus and there is all of the rest of the mystical [ __ ] that can be told all of which is true none of which is remotely helpful the reasons i will explain um so once you wind up there you look back everything else looks completely normal right you know trees or trees grasses grass or people yeah they're all cosmic manifestations for one you know original brain of the universe all the rest of that crap but that was true before you notice that right the enlightenment is a change of perspective you go from not understanding what is happening to understanding what is happening once you understand what's happening it does not change what is going on right all the time that we thought we understood where animals came from before we discovered evolution we were wrong that didn't mean the animals were involved i mean just then we can understand what the hell is happening so it is within white you finally understand the nature of consciousness consciousness proceeds through what consciousness is always there right for example right you know here here is a shadow right now once you understand that if you look closely enough what you're seeing here are pixels and over there there's a really bright light that's going through some set of digital mirrors and that's what the pixels are they're still a shadow right you stop being mystified by why there's a shadow there you have the hand there's a shadow that's what the shape is that doesn't change what it is and where it came from so the whole process of meditation is sitting and watching what is and you sit and you watch [8:31](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=511s) what is until you finally notice what's actually going on you work your way down through where after layer after layer after where mental noise nonsense and mythology and all the rest of this stuff and eventually you bottom out into consciousness itself and consciousness itself is just consciousness right the indians talk about south chip and honor knowledge being place they're just trying to describe what happens when you take the white inside of you that in some sense creates your world and you turn it around and you point it at itself once you can finally improve your awareness on awareness you get a feedback that opens the universe to you and that's why you meditate right the form of meditation which is kind of taken within this culture is like the form of yoga which is taking a look in this culture yoga is not a way to work hard right i understand many people are using it for that right it's one of one of eight aspects of yoga right there are eight legs of yoga all the physical postures one of the legs and it's meant to make your body stable enough so that you can sit in one position for an hour and a half at a time meditating without getting distracted by muscle cramps that's what yoga is for it's so you can sit and bloody meditate that's why it was invented also potentially if you do it right you become physically immortal google be alchemical body if you're interested in that stuff it's a very good book personally i think that's probably mythology well i have heard some stories first hand so um does this make sense so far okay how are we doing for time just keep going just keep going so the second thing that comes from this is that all of these heavy spiritual practices whether it's prayer or meditation magic just radiates off this stuff right every tradition that has enlightened people has stories of wizards right you know the taoists who run across water you know these all this crouching driver hinder dragon stuff the european alchemists do you guys know about a guy called john d of course right of course what kind of audience do you think this is so john d for those who are not overly red uh was queen elizabeth the first court [11:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=661s) magician and john d has one essential claim to fame which is that he invented the concept of jennifer he wrote two books the british empire he wrote two books arguing that as the romans had used roads to create trade network and to move armies around their empire britain could use ports and ships so he invented the concept that we can reimplement what the romans had done but with london at the center [11:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=690s) right john dee's primary work what he was proudest of in his life was a 400 page volume of angelic magic called the inaugural magical system so you sort of look at this and you're like guys smoking crap then you look at isaac newton right you know newton's laws of motion uh towers he named the colours of the rainbow right by the way he named the covers for rainbow with seven colors even though indigo and violet are the same color because he needed one color per planet and one color per uh you know alchemical uh force um three quarters of newton's work for example and that's all the stuff for everything because oh isaac newton he was such a nonsense lover and all this alchemy stuff love the law's motion though because you're not allowed to take the other side of these men's work seriously because if you do oh my [ __ ] god that's really right there oh [ __ ] yes it's really there right the weird thing is everybody who opens up the big door and looks out into the magical universe where all the cosmic [ __ ] lives see something different right the purpose of religions is to enforce conformity on the mythology that floods your brain once you open up the muslim forces so if you are a strict muslim and you experience your enlightenment in the muslim context the sort of mystical model of the world that gets slammed into your head when you finally look at the universe in that way will be in conformity with the dominant culture around you at the time this is part of the reason that everything in western culture went nuts when they discovered lsd because you had all these people experiencing enlightenment outside of the conformity of the church so rather than becoming you know the saint ignatius of loyola right you wound up as you know acid-crazed bill oh i've got this mythology of the universe and it's all to do with spiral dynamics my name is ken wilbur where the hell did that come from he made it up and then told you it was cosmic law right just like all the others did right everybody experiences the mythological aspect of enlightenment on their own terms and if they are a slick talker they can convince you that's how it works and then when you experience enlightenment you experience the same mythology that you were loaded up with when you experience it this is how it really works you've got your buddhas and your christ and your muhammad's and your abrahams and all the rest of these people they experience these cosmic states of consciousness they generate their own [14:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=840s) mythology and then they run around telling you they've discovered the secrets of the universe you should do it their way now right this is why i don't teach i don't teach because i'm an [ __ ] i have a strong tendency to fight people unpredictably which is not surprising given what my personal history looks like you can't necessarily expect you have perfectly smooth curve if you start with something that looks like an anvil that was wrapped around a black hole right unmangling the human personality is a completely separate axis of activity from simply understanding the nature of stuff right if you understand that's the shape of a hand if i had a finger missing understanding the shape of a hand would not turn it back into the missing finger right this is another part of the great mythology the culture misunderstands enlightenment because the people who are selling the white unit are shiny happy beautiful people that's nothing to do with being enlightened that's an absolute by-product in the same way that half a yoga produces strong fit people enlightenment can produce a certain kind of glossiness it's just not correlated right and as you begin to rip these things apart and say right what is the fundamental knowledge about the nature of consciousness versus nature of the practices that produced it versus the mythology that people realize when they open to the cosmic world versus the tradition that they were embedded in when you begin to strip the abstract categories out the thing that is called enlightenment is really really pretty small it doesn't mean it's easy right i mean schrodinger's wave equation you could write down on a string with something like 35 characters but the actual mechanics of consciousness you go from looking out here at the formula universe to looking at the mechanisms of consciousness itself it forms a feedback loop suddenly everything helps out you understand the nature of raw consciousness that's pretty much all there is to everything else is containers and scaffolding right building the instrumentation to keep your consciousness stable enough to be able to put the attention on the thing is about three or four years work it's a grinding mirror if you're going to make an asteroid it takes years to grind a perfectly smooth reflector then you silver coat it then you point [16:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=990s) it at the sky and now you can see the rules of jupiter right it takes you years to design the microscope you'll look into the water now you can see microbes you just discover germs here building the instrumentation takes time years and years and years because you need long periods 35 40 seconds minimally when there are no thoughts in the mind to be able to begin to turn the awareness onto itself so lengthening the gap between thoughts means lowering the mental background noise lowering the mental background noise means going through all the emotional layers and all of the attachments that generate thought a single emotion that you don't really deal with properly can generate five years of internal chatter should i shouldn't that should i should actually i shouldn't that should i shouldn't sugarcoat and you finally come back and it's this deep feeling of uncertainty about your voice in the world you feel it it goes away you've been liberated of an emotion that stream of thought stops and as a result your mind gradually empties these energies and entities if you've been told that you are your mind that process feels like dying this is why there's all this nonsense about the abyss and master magic version yeah you go to india they've never even heard of venus right because in india they don't think that you're your mind so having the mind go away really that thing back there yeah i used to use that for saying mantras now it doesn't work anymore call tech support whereas in the west if your mind stops that means your identity is gone and everybody freaks out it calls out the abyss if you shut the mind up in degrees and you understand the difference between yourself and your your mind your ideas that wear can drop off without causing all that much distress for me hitting that cold two weeks so um now we go to the fun part any questions stick to engineering yeah i don't believe you like i i think what you what you're describing is like just just getting rid of frameworks it's just a new framework right you're just talking about another way of understanding consciousness and [19:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=1140s) it's the same as the stoic because it's the same as the mystics and it's the same as nature and it's the same as whoever you talk it's just another perspective i don't think i think what you what you're i mean i'm sorry if being skeptical but like what it seems to me that because you you didn't talk about anything specific right you saw some beautiful abstraction and maybe that's maybe that maybe that's that's not what you're trying to get to is abstraction to maybe that's a that's a linguistic problem but it feels to me like like the things you're talking about very abstract terms are the same things that every other philosopher every other solution never talks about abstract and you just it's just it's just a different framework you haven't gotten a framework every individual who goes up there sees the type of [ __ ] more or less and then you come back down and you try and tell people about it in language and you wind up building a model that you communicate that's exactly correct yes it's the same [ __ ] i said what you said but i made a joke yeah so so so so if that's the case like what like what's the inside like there it's the is [ __ ] that everybody else is right the the bit that's perfectly useful is um being really really really clear that everybody comes back with their own version of the story right so you know there's a western notion that you get to some kind of hard objective truth and you've got a perfect description which can be no further simplified right um i don't know if that is true actually well pythagoras is still right however you state it it's still pythagoras is there however you derive it it's still pythagoras theorem proper mathematical truth is like that so there's a deep desire in the western mind to find that kind of certainty by consciousness i'm not convinced that it works to get to a certain point of truth presuppose that there is a certain truth to understanding that we all have and yet it seems to me what you're doing is stripping away with the interesting stuff that goes on in terms of an internal dialogue and you get to a state where you can recognize that makes a shadow well what was the benefit of that precisely right so in an indian context enlightenment is seen as something you might do you know sometime after the heat death of the universe right the traditional hindu setting is that enlightenment is for a tiny [21:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=1290s) fraction of people who've exhausted their karma and have really nothing else to do with their time right it's a tiny minority sport then you get buddhism and buddhism says no enlightenment for everybody and it's this kind of evangelical enlightenment sect based on one guy that as far as i could tell totally missed the [ __ ] point right this buddhist thing about all life is suffering everything is [ __ ] everything is off center there's a fundamental wobbliness in the nature of things he did it wrong buddhism is a mistake that's the official hindu viewpoint hold me on that i'm not i'm absolutely clear about that right i could see that in an official capacity to hindus the buddha is the sixth incarnation of vishnu or maybe fifth one of those and his job was to stop people getting enlightened by misleading absolutely accurate from my perspective the point is it's not something that appeals to everybody people shouldn't feel bad about getting on with their life and trying to be a good human being right not getting interested in the enlightenment is like not getting interested in you know number theory or uh cosmology if you're not into it you're not into it it doesn't matter does that make sense is that easy to answer yes yes what's your personal strategy for [22:44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=1364s) carrying on with material existence um right i mean you know nothing in my life really makes sense my wife is dominated by these chunks of narrative that were just conjured out of the void because i needed something to do uh i never have any money apart very occasionally there are these huge windfalls fought by long deserts you know you'd be better asking almost anybody um keep it calm and carry on right try not to get killed etc etc no yeah i mean i asked this because if you come to something that's kind of like a positivistic nihilism which i think i came through from doing acid 100 times yeah there's this question of materials in the world being full of materials and material relations and how you have a kind of nihilistic politics toward that that's necessary to deal with them so when you get to a point and this is widely talked about you know like philip k that kind of stuff but you've got to decide whether you're going to try and break out with the system destroy the system so everybody is free or just live with it right and there are probably some other options as well those are your basic choices right punch a hole for one person smash the entire thing flat so everybody escapes or just nothing wonder do what you're talking um i think that you need a mixed strategy right you know if you're dealing with parking you should not go under and do what you're talking right drive on the correct side of the road if you're dealing with your own personal mind bodybuilding as free as you possibly can and in the kind of communal setting if you see a whole bunch of people who are stuck in some awful negative rut because they don't know they're allowed to do something different you can gently remind them and see if they buy it you know i mean i got an idea for the next board meeting why don't we sit around a whole bunch of little tables and talk about things kind of issue by issue and then maybe talk to each other about it rather than sitting on a big table with man with a gamble yeah well we can do that yeah we can do that you know but i think it's something where you've got to think of it as a continuation of other parts of life right you know you take your niche and kind of willed power staff boy how do you have to moderate that depending on your circumstances there is no absolute philosophy because we're in an adaptive environment populated by our equals right and once you understand that you know evolution is a real thing the game is as hard as it can be because we've been [25:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=1514s) extracting every possible advantage for the whole of our evolutionary history why would you expect enlightenment to give you a massive edge what's going on because it's an arbitrary process well i mean i'm not convinced it's arbitrary i'm pretty sure that it's a way of digging deeper into some fundamental reality but that fundamental reality is not necessarily objective it's neutral it's also something where you've got no guarantee you saw the first time around right so when you think of okay i've got as good an understanding as anybody can have this but it's a one by four by nine slab sitting on the surface of the moon you know how confident am i really understand everything about this thing given that all the other people before me who said they were enlightened and understood everything none of them discovered evolution you know you really have to look back at the history of enlightenment everybody who failed to get evolution out of their enlightenment trip who didn't notice the origin of the body if one was to engage in the practice of spending long periods of one's time shutting out outside information from one's experience so the full change well you know you talked about the 45 seconds of thought you're thinking about heading out after a few years as you yourself mentioned the math starts to add up and you've spent more time thinking about the inside of your own mind than the outside this moment of inversion you talked about what you see yourself thinking isn't that just a kind of egocentric dialectical inevitability of your mind having more information about yourself than the world to come to understand it um notably most of the enlightened traditions use extremely low stimulus environments you know zen monastic life for example it's the same thing over and over and over simple and incredibly repetitive to enable that deterioration as for what actually happens at that point you know the the discovery that the internal world is completely arbitrary and you can just turn it off dumps you right back into the external world in a very very serious way you know once the internal dialogue stops there's no place to escape to and then you spend a bit more time [27:44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=1664s) sanding out through the bottom of that particular barrel until you hit the big one and then after you get the big one slammed back into reality but now the entire thing is this massive mystical cosmic process but it's exactly the same [ __ ] it was before you noticed yeah it's not you so what is it about this time and the context of this event that you felt it was appropriate to share these things so when i say teach what i mean is i don't form the guru disciple relationship with people right as a hindu we have this thing [28:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=1705s) called the guru disciple relationship and the guru disciple relationship starts out by creating the kind of surrogate terror and the surrogate parent basically patches the remaining holes in the ego and holds the insecurity down to a dull roar while the mind just dismantles itself don't worry it's just like puberty we're not going to let you make any stupid mistakes try not to kill anybody because you basically fry the entire surface of your consciousness off um i don't do that because if your own parents are evil bastards and your guru is a bit weird you don't necessarily have great imprints or great templates to pass down to people so probably not qualifying to be a strictly hindu style rather fact right not everybody who gets in like not teach it's not necessarily even most pressing thing that you've done right now after 9 11 9 11 is when they shut the school that i was part of and it was just like right there's no point trying to teach another generation of western gurus go and do something about the state of the world so i picked house 20 years from now maybe 100 million people within those possibly because they're a quarter of the price of a disaster at least 10. so here and now right we're in kind of one of these cycles where the world that we've lived in has gone right this economic process which is unfolding there's no way of reversing it in america there's probably no way of reversing it in the mediterranean basin including on the north african middle eastern side it's eventually going to destabilize israel god only knows what's actually going to happen but the period of sort of a old war that we've had 10 years old is about to turn into a proper economic depression we haven't had one of those for several generations and the last thing we had when we got the nazis at the far side and this time we might get you know civic anarchy because the nation state tears apart the internet continues to basically function and the whole thing goes completely bananas in times like that when the old world model is just snapping off there's an enormous tendency to get the formation of stupid cults right and there's this kind of like happy clappy pseudo-buddhist millennialism stuff going around right now of which the integral movement is one manifestation but usually it's mushroom talking hippies who've done a bunch of yoga insist that you should be vegan and that if [30:55](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhneUKos51Q&t=1855s) everybody has the right consciousness the world will be okay that [ __ ] needs to just be killed with extreme prejudices so you guys are a particularly culturally powerful group of people we've seen a fair amount of the kind of happy coffee enlightenment nonsense being preached oh yes you can do a bit meditation everything is better yeah yeah that's absolutely true what happens if you do more right so this notion that you know you're kept with ld50 for meditation after which you're gonna have to face your cosmic existence or you're gonna have to become some chicken --- End of [248] Vinay Gupta Thought Menu on Enlightenment. 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