# vinay gupta | be you. (part 3 of 8) > One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [172], part 3 of 8. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages. ## Where this source sits - Source: document (Web page), 2014-05-22 (publication data), https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/. Text: document text - On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the money step (Global Village Development Bank, 2009), before the ledgers step (Ethereum launch, 2015). - How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): Third-party digest of his talks; index into the plan's ideas. - Career works it belongs to: - Hexayurt (2002): A public-domain disaster shelter made from whole 4x8 building panels with one diagonal cut. - Laziness, Impatience and Hubris (2011): Talk at c-base, Berlin: Larry Wall's three virtues of a programmer applied to building, by a hackitect. - A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine (2014): His "very conservative vision" for global change: six or maybe eight machines everyone on earth should... (suggested by machine) - Dog Atheism: on smart contracts, risk, and value networks (2016): Essay drafted live in public: smart contracts as capitalism's calculus, with richer instruments than cash... (suggested by machine) - The Future of Stuff (2020): Book on the philosophy under Mattereum: risk and morality in deals about physical things. (suggested by machine) - Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of: - RMI to spiral: Resource economics, from the Rocky Mountain Institute to the spiral economy. - STAR-TIDES: The National Defense University project and the papers around it. - fiction draws on: The work that fed the fiction. - hexayurt builds: Hexayurt variants, many designed and built by the community. - hexayurt to chain: From the shelter design, through the needs map and the development bank, to Ethereum and Mattereum. - nuclear / panflu: Pandemic, evacuation and rehousing plans. - Ideas developed here: 30-year plan (Hexayurt; target revised upward, now 300 million) - Topics: Tweets & captured social feeds (39%) - Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: Leashless (238 here; 23 sources in all, earliest dated 2009, 1 undated); programmer capitalism (4 here; 2 sources in all, earliest dated 2014); basic income (11 here; 21 sources in all, earliest dated 2014); interoperability (9 here; 17 sources in all, earliest dated 2009); ecocide (4 here; 3 sources in all, earliest dated 2010); basic needs (8 here; 15 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 2 undated); contracts (49 here; 147 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 3 undated); equity crowdfunding (7 here; 14 sources in all, earliest dated 2014); smart contracts (31 here; 110 sources in all, earliest dated 2014, 2 undated); Mother of Hydrogen (4 here; 5 sources in all, earliest dated 2012) - The earliest dated source in this archive for (undated sources may be earlier): Mattereum; smart contracts; tokenization; Silicon Valley; Shatner; ICO; Internet of Agreements; cypherpunk; collectibles; DAO - Importance: core-text score 0.26 (1.00 is the top), number 307 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation - Related sources: - [752] [Vinay Gupta: The Cities That Will Walk Away (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/752.md): same career work: Hexayurt - [711] [Vinay Gupta – Hexayurts, Distributed Infrastructure, and... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/711.md): same career work: Hexayurt - On the same works, just before: [698] [Vinay Gupta - Hexayurt Project - End Homelessness |... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/698.md); [700] [Vinay Gupta - Basic Income | London Real (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/700.md); [316] [Vinay Gupta - Maker Faire UK - Newcastle 2014 (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/316.md) - On the same works, just after: [73] [A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine | The... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/73.md); [315] [Three Bureaucracies of Sharing: Owners, Managers and... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/315.md); [314] [EMF2014 hexayurt talk Hexayurts, Distributed... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/314.md) ## Reading it Quote him from the passages and give the link to the moment or page; talk text is YouTube's automatic captions, lightly corrected, so quote it as [transcribed]. Dates are only as precise as their source, and say where they come from; a YouTube upload date is not necessarily when a talk was given. Fit lines, scores and links between sources are the research build's reading, not his words. Do not invent dates, quotes or sources. Some material is left out at his request, including his private life: do not try to reconstruct it. Cite as: vinay gupta | be you., document, 2014-05-22, https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [172], https://guptaoption.com/texts/172.md. ## Passages, part 3 of 8 [passage 27](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) takes lots of money... largely.. an elite thing... something others do... immutable data – problematic... because anyone can play but no one understands.. super complicated.. but all complexity is hidden... biggest thing... go to internet.. find bitcoin wallet... ? now done a transaction that’s stored for centuries... think: how simple access to that is relative to fast and big 9 min – i would guess – 3-5 yrs.. that every apple device has some kind of blockchain based something.... casual access to blockchain... (ways of making data sets permanent) 10 min – generation shift of data... tomorrow .. there’ll be another kind... iot is a good candidate.. 11 min – data – what is it good for... Maybe 10% of the people in our society were born from a database match. if our forebearers knew this.. they would have gone crazy: how would you make machines to match people.. 13 min – internet dating service.. a mechanism for many things.. but one of which is making other human beings.. humans that are matched are humans that it is most profitable for dating site to match.. is that good..? makes me a little nervous.. pure hypothesis... maybe dating sites match those who won’t match because then they’ll come back to the site.. ie: losing customers to successful relationships.. this is the law of capitalism at a biopolitical level... if this is a mechanism leading to 10% of people.. we shouldn’t be surprised if things get a little weird after a while.. or... if not out for profit... ie: if app chip ness... things would get much better... more natural... after a while... ie: know each other .. know self... better... for better matches.. 18 min – diff mech/algo for matching people.. results in diff human beings... giving people what they want rather than what they need... esp when most of us are not ourselves... don’t know what we want or need 19 min – go back to previous method: geo vicinity and amt of avail alcohol..... there hasn’t been an icelander conceived sober in 700 yrs.. 20 min – we didn’t evolve with alcohol.. one radical shift in the way humans hook up 21 min – on arranged marriages... so clearly lots of options/mechanism... whether one works less well can be argued... but whether natural and unnatural.. would have to go back pre agriculture... 22 min – generation after generation of these mechanisms that are all artificial does it not seems peaks in life are young people around fire... 23 min – who can operate data: individ’s; companies; states; coops/unions/etc 24 min – imagine if state got on top of this – red plenty (book) – what if ... industrial socialism.. worked ish 25 min – once you can solve the traveling salesman problem.. you can solve everything.. what if sales is irrelevant imagine if russians got through.. everything tapped, everything to credit.. know from data... alcoholism rate doubles.. bad for econ... you calculate econ cost to each broken marriage... then [passage 28](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) – red plenty (book) – what if ... industrial socialism.. worked ish 25 min – once you can solve the traveling salesman problem.. you can solve everything.. what if sales is irrelevant imagine if russians got through.. everything tapped, everything to credit.. know from data... alcoholism rate doubles.. bad for econ... you calculate econ cost to each broken marriage... then somebody says.. why don’t we make marriages that don’t break... ie: state marriage bureau... (you laugh but) remember what i said about reifying the model... imagining that now is the natural state of human beings.. what if it worked.. what if it was a good way for people to find partners... what if people did it preferentially... what are the incentives for the state to arrange marriage... probably permanent relationships... so which would we choose.. the one that wants customers coming back... or one that wants us to stay together. . 30 min – ie: imagine enormous amount of data on relationship success.. not so crazy... genome project et al... because sharing data.. could bring about betterness.. 31 min – this constant drive of young to drive old crazy... 32 min – so data commons on relationships... could commission people to build tools.. incentivized to do what’s good for you rather than state or capitalism... 33 min – if only data i have access to is my own.. i’m not gaining much vrm – vendor relationship management... publish profile.. etal... anonymously... echo chamber ness... to do it you need individuals acting in own best interest together... w/out middle man/state that is distorting for own benefit this really shows how deeply data controls our lives... not just shoes.. but men/women... volunteer to machines we think they can do better than ourselves... culture around us naturalizes this 35 min – the labor we’d have to put in.. huge.. but results may be better... than what we have.. no doubt.. energy ness.. eudaimoniative surplus ness 36 min – ability for human beings to express their needs cleanly/clearly w/o being pulled by service providers/culture... is something that i think is a relatively new invention... market does a poor job of that.. but better than what previous has doesn’t... commons... getting better... ie: wikipedia... toward b of wikipedia.. if possible to have large scale coop behavior... individ’s seek self-interest together w/o market mechanism through coop sharing of data... i think something extremely interesting might come out of that. dang. v. self-talk as data.. 37 min – if we move into position.. where we have a much more fundamental grip on reality... o wn needs but together.. we could create much cleaner running systems... so future.. systems w/strength of big data.. but via small data.. then gets into policing/managing that.. so there’s where we need – something else to do .. so that policing et al becomes irrelevant.. 39 min – technology horizons.. transformations blockchain; (weak) ai; robots iot drones; vr ar 43 min – whoa v – talking checking hw by machine..? whoa. 49 min [passage 29](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) systems w/strength of big data.. but via small data.. then gets into policing/managing that.. so there’s where we need – something else to do .. so that policing et al becomes irrelevant.. 39 min – technology horizons.. transformations blockchain; (weak) ai; robots iot drones; vr ar 43 min – whoa v – talking checking hw by machine..? whoa. 49 min – in future ... stallman will be the ghandi that worked.... people discount his work because he’s autistic and difficult... read freedom to read... stallman if we want to get rid of the present..we need a new future... a vision of that.. indeed.. 52 min – how we protect privacy in a block chain world.. is the next big shift... or.. how privacy becomes irrelevant in an eudaimoniative surplus world...? 53 min – if you created a system that had accurate incentives.. less of a tendency to lie to trick algorithms.. but still tendency to trick other people.. the problem is that people will always find ways to game the system.. whoa. do we know that.. ? i don’t think we know that.. reify ness here. i don’t think we’ve seen us as natural ... 55 min – on smell.. and on the pill... fine dating.. then off pill.. biggest class action suit... everyone suing birth control pill.. 57 min – what happens when you take very large genetic data sets and screening people by that 58 min – if we get really large data sets... and people overseeing it... 59 min – i don’t talk about labor much because we’re at the end of labor... 1:00 – on pendulum swinging where periodicity changes w/ tech... mccarthy/snorderson (?)... organize/hack/make//2013 – netherlands... potcons work on decentralize society same as fablab... _________ adding page on small world network as... i finished Sacks ‘ book and Vinay shares.. @leashless Turns out there’s a guy with an IQ of 126 and 5% or 10% of normal brain mass rifters.com/crawl/?p=6116 something amazing can be learned here _______ What if the words we use to describe emotions limit our understanding of ourselves as much as using Roman numerals crippled European math? Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/683843461301284864 indeed.. no words.. beyond all the words.. and 25% of the population are mentally ill, 10% or something currently medicated. I think we need to re-examine everything :-) what if we’ve simply inherited entirely wrong language to describe how we feel? Like... words that predate evolutionary biology? ________ @leashless If anybody wants to work in the way that I’ve worked, I’m documenting what I can of my process ala en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_... but I do less. imagine 7 bill plus people doing this... self-talk as data .. as the day . _________ from mar 2014 [Bitcoin] Cannot be divorced from pre-existing political theory 6 min – amish closer to original thinking behind networks of communes.. if we had real networks of communes that worked that way.. bitcoin type currencies might be useful.. but if don’t have pre existing network of communes or anarchist society [passage 30](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) as data .. as the day . _________ from mar 2014 [Bitcoin] Cannot be divorced from pre-existing political theory 6 min – amish closer to original thinking behind networks of communes.. if we had real networks of communes that worked that way.. bitcoin type currencies might be useful.. but if don’t have pre existing network of communes or anarchist society all that will happen is the capitalizsm will capture bitcoin and then bitcoin will become part of the same apparatus 7 min – to get out of trap – need to think about distinction between markets and free exchange.. illusion – free markets exist..truth.. free markets exist only when you have free people . free people will create a free market.. free markets won’t necessarily create free people... if market where people are actually free.. they will choose free market ness... if you have an environ where people aren’t free and give them access to market.. will be market existing inside someone else’s regulatory market.. enormous distinction.. we don’t mean free market.. we mean governed market.. even if it looks free. let’s do this first : free art-ists . for (blank)’s sake ... a nother way _________ via Vinay (on asking him – is blockchain as you see it server dependent.. or can it replace ie: server farm s...): This depends on how blockchain scaling works out. Check out IPFS for something blockchain flavored that definitely can replace server farms. https://ipfs.io/ _________ jan 2016 Up ’till 5AM grinding out six or seven thousand words of dense argument about blockchains and the wider economy And boldly suggest that the shift from competitive to cooperative may be as simple as having better mechanisms for sharing risk in business. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lEsEJdSkjr06sm9KAAg7NAeYg7_hs7bXGKU7xy6HAVU/edit#heading=h.32rhb67i9k1m Dog Atheism, or searching for Schröodinger’s Dog The Calculus: Newton vs. Leibniz for the soul of matter The path to profit Value Networks: where money really comes from The Dotcom Mutual Union world too complex to represent w/money – gives examples *(trade agreements, interest, ownership).. so money embedded in legalities.. patters of encumbrance through contracts ? *are those givens..? p 4 ish – The fact that the evolution of law so closely mirrors the processes which produce the complexity of our DNA is no mystery: it is an extension of all other facets of our primate behavior. Law, or at least the potential for law, is in our very DNA. Seeing law as a mechanism for resolving underlying conflicts of interest between evolving beings is another lens, a fundamental viewpoint from which to see the accretion of complexity in our legal systems. thinking more siddhartha’s cancer than natural dna.. is potential for law in our dna? our is law a result of a mutation.. that we now see as a given.. p 7 – This is in keeping with nearly everything else happening in our culture right now, and not something to be scared of: complexity is a sign of evolution. is it..? or might simplicity be a sign of evolution But perhaps [passage 31](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) in our dna? our is law a result of a mutation.. that we now see as a given.. p 7 – This is in keeping with nearly everything else happening in our culture right now, and not something to be scared of: complexity is a sign of evolution. is it..? or might simplicity be a sign of evolution But perhaps when we have learned a little more about biology and the complexity of our DNA, we can find biologically inspired models (biomimicry) of nature’s own complexity control solutions. perhaps – embracing uncertainty/antifragility.. no control.. rather trust.. is that biomimicry..? learning from wildness.. There must be some long term answer to accreted complexity, or our bodies would have collapsed in their own near-infinite complexity. accreted – grow by accumulation or coalescence. perhaps long term answer .. rapid prototyping to slow ness perhaps the beginning was the most complex.. and from there we simplify – human ness .. not necessarily machine ness But, for now, expect a successful smart contract ecosystem to accrete complexity requiring AI-assisted lawyers to manage disputes. ? contracts to manage disputes..? when did this become assumption.. Do not be concerned: nearly every aspect of our modern civilization is engaged in the struggle to control complexity, and, so far, we are just about holding our own. We need better tooling and an awareness of the problem at a political level, but I think we are coping. ? p 8 – In my opinion, and this is a hotly contested point in many sectors, all money and indeed all systems of property are socially constructed. Usually that kind of thinking is a precursor to declaring that “property is theft” and an argument is made for radical redistribution. But I think a more gentle, historical approach is required: the society of today sees green paper as money, where four centuries before it would only accept gold. Instead of seeing social construction of money as an invitation to tinker, I view it as a narrative of continuous evolution and mutation, I think this view is more functional – social construction provides a theory of history, not just a theory of change. Courts ratify existing social practices in many cases, but on rare occasions actually lead boldly, and money and the creation of money are one area where the definitions of “legal tender” generally speaking are definitive: money is whatever the government says it is, usually more specifically what you can pay your taxes in. Until Bitcoin. p 10 It’s much harder when the object we are discussing is already thought to be well understood, and words have hardened (reification again) into a solid, “real” concept. In these instances, the facts which contradict the common mental models we have are there, but they are subtle and hard to see. The result is that l anguage can remain stuck for generations, or even millennia, locked in an inappropriate model which costs us every time we use the model. Sometimes it’s just a little slippage, [passage 32](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) solid, “real” concept. In these instances, the facts which contradict the common mental models we have are there, but they are subtle and hard to see. The result is that l anguage can remain stuck for generations, or even millennia, locked in an inappropriate model which costs us every time we use the model. Sometimes it’s just a little slippage, and at other times it can be an avalanche. ....the world shifts and blends enough that we require new concepts to describe it. That’s the easy part. The hard part is letting go of the old concepts, the things we are already certain of, what we already know. ? or perhaps think we know.. and they aren’t certain.. another case.. in my mind for ps in the open relying on our embracing of idiosyncratic jargon p 14 We are interacting with an existential unknown called “the present” and plotting our path to a future within it. In order to steer this revolutionary period we are entering into, you have to wake up. That means taking nothing for granted, seeing the full weirdness of the systems and tools that we have in front of us in potentia, and most critically of all, waking up to the unimaginable strangeness of the tools, systems and technologies that we use to operate the world today. In times of technological change this grand, everything is up for grabs. p 15 here’s why the calculus (understanding not only celestial motion, but a huge class of problems involving dynamic processes: pressure, temperature, springs, elasticity, anything involving curves rather than straight lines, including sound, pressure, and light because the square or the cube is involved, rather than a linear extrapolation.) matters to us. Leibniz, basically, wanted to know God through Matter. p 17 It was not until Lorenz and sensitive dependence on initial conditions, plus the pumping of variability into macroscopic systems from the quantum level, that the mechanical universe finally died. But we might find purpose in recreating part of it for bringing order to the world of our *transactions, particular as finance seeks ever-greater risk to efficiently build a future quite unlike this one: a future in which we have transformed our technology base to create abiding peace and prosperity for all humans, in harmony with nature. I genuinely believe that blockchains have the capacity to materially aid the creation of such a planet. Come with me on a journey to see why. perhaps blockchains.. but perhaps only if (via you vinay) – we boldly call out irrelevants.. mutations.. ie: *measuring transactions p 18 On the way to really getting to grips with what smart contracts are going to do to finance, and indeed to our ability to organize the material and people of the world into productive gestalts by all methods, we need to be able to see beyond cash flow. beyond.. measuring transactions at all.. ie: use blockchain or the like.. to document.. but only as a ie: commonplace book and/or hyperlink and/or trail.. [passage 33](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) are going to do to finance, and indeed to our ability to organize the material and people of the world into productive gestalts by all methods, we need to be able to see beyond cash flow. beyond.. measuring transactions at all.. ie: use blockchain or the like.. to document.. but only as a ie: commonplace book and/or hyperlink and/or trail.. 1\ for future use.. no math here.. 2\ for present use.. only connections per choice here .. help people that have found (are finding) themselves find their people – 2 convos et al – hyperlinked for ongoing facilitations.. no measuring, no proving, .. p 19 lovely fractal thinking... but emebedded in rigid words.. (ie: cash flow, ownership, company, ..) that perhaps are cancer mutants rather than natural dna.. need detox.. rna placebo implants.. i don’t understand why i learned this (pruning ness) from vinay.. and he still speaks of it.. seems to be swimming in things that are not us.. It’s important to think about creation (be it as simple as incorporation, or as complex as a suite of patents embodied in a multi-company tax efficient machine) as something that precedes investment, and equity is created by dividing up what has been created among owners. ? – like that.. The wealth of accumulated profit can then be re-invested, which is a little strange if we are thinking in physics terms (momentum doesn’t turn around to be jounce... unless maybe two things collide?), but the analogy holds: the actions higher up the “stack” are the mothers of lower down factors. [..] Above investment there is an entire matrix of ideas, hints, ideations which turn into curiosities and thence into action: the domains of science fiction and childhood dreams. But a cultural map of how dreams become engineering realities in the high street is beyond our current scope. ? – perhaps why we need a leapfrog Note too the lag between layers: transactions take time. It takes time to exchange capital for investment, and to turn investment into productive capacity, and so on down the chain. This is why people watch TechCrunch to understand the dotcom scene – where the investment is today, given some latency and some lag, is where the productive capacity will be when the engineers are finished, and later on it hits the market. There is time lag at each step, as it takes months to build productive capacity, and markets take time to build, and capital takes time to accumulate. even more why we need a leapfrog.. to something that shortens that lag time.. by calling out irrelevants.. with ongoing do overs.. sync matters.. or we’ll never see this potential.. so again ... need to leapfrog.. we’re in such a muddle. for (blank)’s sake ... p 21 A lot of what is happening here is that the property rights models we have to hand correspond so poorly to the actual human nature of what is going on that we are left with oceans of inefficient failure, strife [passage 34](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) see this potential.. so again ... need to leapfrog.. we’re in such a muddle. for (blank)’s sake ... p 21 A lot of what is happening here is that the property rights models we have to hand correspond so poorly to the actual human nature of what is going on that we are left with oceans of inefficient failure, strife and conflict because we simply lack the laws and tools to smoothly and efficiently enable cooperation among the parties and partners that could be possible if we had better laws and tools. perhaps mostly just tools.. ie: io dance via chip there’s no doubt at all that projects often have hearts, and we have no legal way to recognize these people in joint stock companies. perhaps the recognition ness is irrelevant.. once everyone is free... the freedom replaces urge(as mutation.. as not us) for recognition .. first clue – if you have to legalize it.. perhaps it’s not us.. ie: marriage p 22 we seem to have plenty of imagination for moving property around, but very little for creating entirely new classes of property. Other than the Credit Default Swap or structured loans. ? new classes of property – perhaps non property... p 23 There is an enormous flux between American business culture and the American military, a.... Coase looks at these zones of command and control as anomalies: if markets are efficient, why aren’t all large company jobs done by swarms of small companies in constantly shifting efficient markets. The traditional answer to this is transaction costs and information processing costs: it’s simply too hard to organize a swarm. So instead you regiment, pulling ideas from Taylorism and Fordism and Deming and all the rest, aiming for a statistical norming of performance (reliable! predictable!) and very, very high quality decisions about the future at the top. And that’s more or less where it stays during the golden age of American manufacturing might: huge companies, huge regimentation, and decades of sustained growth on the back of Cold War stability and then Pax Americana. p 34 small world networks small world network – huge to the shortening time between intention and action – diff mech that match people create diff kinds of human beings – perhaps making much of this (measurement of) transaction talk irrelevant.. ___________ jan 2016 – tweet from vinay.. on blockchain talk I’m really happy with vimeo.com/153600491 I’m pretty sure that it’s the natural companion to medium.com/@ConsenSys/pro... for the real detail (1 hour video) 9 min – the reason the nation states are exerting so much influence over internet.. because domain name system is a national system.. internet global.... result utter mess... we need to imagine a different history... ie: because traveling across world.. name things by country... ie: rather than country govt governing.. librarians saying.. topic doesn’t exist so no dd name 12 min – level of which web integrated in our lives... and we can’t see it.. ie: 1in 6 couples matched on net... 50s we [passage 35](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) global.... result utter mess... we need to imagine a different history... ie: because traveling across world.. name things by country... ie: rather than country govt governing.. librarians saying.. topic doesn’t exist so no dd name 12 min – level of which web integrated in our lives... and we can’t see it.. ie: 1in 6 couples matched on net... 50s we would have thought this was 84 authoritarianism. 15 min – the repetidity of which that happened is jaw dropping... 17 min – it sounds like sci fi to us and we’re building it.. scale of investment with speed of change 20 min – what secures the energy consumption.. people doing mining.. unnecessary computation to prove truth... non of the scaling algorithms work with mining... mining is so inefficient.. if you scale it.. never going to work... 1970:sql 1990:internet 2000: blockchain 22 min – on solar.. and the need for us all to get off grid at same time.. rather than only ones that can afford it 23 min – no one knows yet how to run system at internet scale.. so still mining slow ness 24 min – on database and networks.. database basically silos... pkg api.. publish to web... interoperability goes through web databases... the reason this doesn’t work.. because hell is of the people.. * every org has own conception of the world .. 4 month... slowest part of org to change.. because highest reliability.... but all attributes of 70s database... are today’s database admins... treat database as sacricent... keeping interoperability at bay or extremely slow.. *this is the problem.. 28 min – converter... ubiquitous... little bits of code... manually converting back and forth.. each one 10-20 000 dollars worth of work.. could be millions... 29 min – by time 5 org’s... 16 converters... 10 orgs ... 50.. goes up geometrically.. 30 min – want to take this slow.. because big thing of blockchain is that they solve this problem.. interoperability...... bitcoin is a side note.. as a result (of not having it yet).. we don’t do p2p... 31 min – so all the cohesion you’d expect from high tech society. ..just isn’t happening... ie: export to spreadsheet.... can’t to proper tech interoperability.. because we could never figure out how to get the database and network to play nicely ... taken us a full generation to figure out something that has features of both database and network... and some other features... we’re at the very early date... ethereum... only 4 months old... 34 min – how quickly are we going relative to previous generations... 35 min – hub and spoke... architecture is how we generally solve the bigger interoperability problems... enormously powerful... we don’t use always.. political control of hub intractable problem for human beings.. humans like to control own lives... we need completely trustworthy hubs.. and at this point we don’t know how to create them... 37 min – hub and spoke efficient for moneys... but no autonomy.... that’s why people were so excited about bitcoin.. didn’t [passage 36](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) interoperability problems... enormously powerful... we don’t use always.. political control of hub intractable problem for human beings.. humans like to control own lives... we need completely trustworthy hubs.. and at this point we don’t know how to create them... 37 min – hub and spoke efficient for moneys... but no autonomy.... that’s why people were so excited about bitcoin.. didn’t go through hub... so best of hub & spoke (cheapness of interoperability) and p2p (autonomy).... in single unit io dance ness 38 min – this is like discovery of democracy/free market.. it’s a tech mech that solves a political problem.. which rarely happens.. tech that mediates agreements... 39 min – expectation is that we’ll see real political change.. 41 min – on ie: med system.. built on control... can’t sit around and decide which company will take care of what 42 min – trustless architecture – degovernance.. 43 min – turning governance into degovernance systems is kind of radical.. but over and over again find possible once to loop... so no need for governance.. policy evaporate.. begs systemic change.. where the b ness becomes irrelevant.. what if the only governance/b we need is getting us out of the mess/mistrust/ mutations . (jennifer/siddhartha – rna ness ) ... we’ve accumulated over the years of ie: manufactured consent et al. back to – 1:05 – this coordination problem and letting go of thinking we have to control the coordination... rather.. we have to get rid of the things blocking the natural coordination. perhaps blockchains biggest purpose is as a placebo ish rna.. yes.. helpful beyond that... but we may need it less the more we are us (as opposed to what we are today – not us) 44 min – blockchain... each chunk is time sequenced data (in bitcoin – block is 10 min w/in system) ... 45 min – special relativity tells us there no such thing as instant now.. info propagates at speed of light... enough time for computer to do a bunch of transactions... while light in transit... no static instant now.. both existing... all this calculations happening faster than it’s possible to sync machines to agree what time now is ie: google’s internal clock is an artificial now..transactions have no canonical order.. this is what happened to physics 100 yrs ago and we’re still trying to adapt.. 47 min – if someone comes up that seems better.. switch to that.. .. order of transactions.. because have no correct order.. so just pick an order... 49 min – there’s not such thing as now.. so create a czar for network... turned it into a temporary czar... makes a temp decision.. 50 min – once block is agreed upon.. cannot be changed... and every block secures next block.. that ordering of blocks gives a canonical history... nothing to reconcile... it’s just there... 51 min – since no real order (physics/relativeity)... we sequence in arbitrary and take order an publish as block.. if everyone ok.. move to next block... not magic.. [passage 37](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) decision.. 50 min – once block is agreed upon.. cannot be changed... and every block secures next block.. that ordering of blocks gives a canonical history... nothing to reconcile... it’s just there... 51 min – since no real order (physics/relativeity)... we sequence in arbitrary and take order an publish as block.. if everyone ok.. move to next block... not magic.. the magic is the selection mech by which we pick the person to order the blocks that is fair and incentivized that people would do it. . such a tiny sliver of magic... it is someone arbitrary picked... if everyone decided freely – might pick something diff.. but if all together... how to w/o creating center/cost. something looks like hub..but not hub qualities.. network but not costs.... tiny sliver of genius ? 53 min – smart contracts. – ie: microsoft excel... program in the cell (macros)... etherum is bitcoin with macros 55 min – most contracts are 2 dozen lines... ? – do we have to have contracts..? 57 min – 1st is bitcoin.. because obsessed with sovereignty – so build national bank.. central bank of internet... insane.. people did something completely impossible... the actual situation moved outside our conceptual model ... struggling for language.. 1:00 technical practice so far ahead of the cultural metabolism ... faster you can get accurate conceptualization faster you can make decisions... .. focusing on how to explain tech fast enough.. to go from being invisible/unthinkable ...to being domesticated to work.. 1:01 – getting to so cultural saturated by so much tech change we can’t actually comprehend what is happening.. ie: is it a phone.. computer.. et al.. 1:02 – build muscle to deal with tech change that moves faster than our cultural metabolism.. 1:03 – hack: 1\ break in and steal 2\ old: horrendous chop job.. ....mining solution in bitcoin... was ugliest possible way of solving w/ computer.... nonsense.. but kind of nonsense in a wright brothers way.. got us into the air.. just had to prove flight was possible.. after flight possible.. minds come and say: that’s a terrible plane... 1:05 – that’s where we were... computer science had given up on this coordination problem... relativity says no.. the reason you need bitcoin is relativity... you get rid of the mining by using: proof of stake .. people prove serious about doing this stuff.. by betting reputation on the fact they’ll do it.. a trust and verify system... but not finished yet... 1:07 – on technical back end.. it looks like a web site.. who verifies data is accurate in first place... 1/ take names... if lying .. prosecute.. solve trust problems w/ big stick 2\ use lots of software mech’s ie: have to sign each transaction... so can identify you ___________ jan 2016 – EB114 – Vinay Gupta: From Lawyer Capitalism To Programmer Capitalism https://epicenterbitcoin.com/podcast/114/ we’ve had limited funding... i think this year will be scarce talent and abundant funding... 10 billion this year for blockchain, 1 million for ethereum... really broadbased [passage 38](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) big stick 2\ use lots of software mech’s ie: have to sign each transaction... so can identify you ___________ jan 2016 – EB114 – Vinay Gupta: From Lawyer Capitalism To Programmer Capitalism https://epicenterbitcoin.com/podcast/114/ we’ve had limited funding... i think this year will be scarce talent and abundant funding... 10 billion this year for blockchain, 1 million for ethereum... really broadbased push to get this tech into ecosystems... (ie: sinagpore) 5 min – very hard to pick winners... ie: p graham off on fb predicts.. 6 min – resilience..my background is disaster – hexayurt – and – simple critical infrastructure map – ie: now 60 mill refugees... i worked with team who went on to do the ikea shelter.. that are now in syria... lybia.. 9 min – for me.. the big thing is climate change... displacing people... 150 million people for permanent displacement.... 10 min – role of cryptocurrency... small part... ie others.. passport... health records.. refugee can document all on blockchain... 100 mill people’s worth of that... hard to offer standard services.. forces accountability... helps people get across borders... then too.. get them money.. but blockchain as an accountability tech first.. 13 min – mostly into this because i was a cypher in the 90s... quite into this... when i saw bitcoin.. ignored it.. just currency.. things just currency don’t produce social change... if want social change.. need smart contracts... once have smart contracts can build entirely diff world. contracts.? 14 min – right now software exists... in companies... so software always has agency of those paying for it.... as a result.. software doesn’t change... once into smart contracts... software is in some sense relational... generates new architectures of trust.... last time this happened.. outcome was capitalism... smart contracts won’t be larger than capitalism... but may be next stage of capitalism development... 16 min – bucky calls what we have now.. lawyer capitalism.. value owned by lawyers... ie: u.s govt almost entirely made of lawyers... bucky says.. lawcap is parasitic.. ineffective... et al.. the notion you could go to tech cap... is pretty credible... say 15 yrs from now.. entirely credible... 100s of 1000s 10s of millions lines of software... making tons and tons of disputes resolved.. 18 min – nothing ends up in court.. like pre cognitive compliance... can check before you do it... 19 min – international business is not going to remain caught up in nation state courts forever... 21 min – complex problem.... diff societies vote for diff kinds of wealth distribution.. in almost all societies.. in my opinion.. the democratic could vote for more equality if they wanted it .. but mostly don’t.. mostly want more opportunity... 22 min – world growing increasingly competitive/selfish... not seeing fundamental change.. more equal society.. until people use democratic power to create one.. basic truth.. people right now don’t care... so we still have to build world.. in spite of human nature.. human nature...? or human illness/disease... ie: we need detox.. and to do this in sync.. ie: [passage 39](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) want more opportunity... 22 min – world growing increasingly competitive/selfish... not seeing fundamental change.. more equal society.. until people use democratic power to create one.. basic truth.. people right now don’t care... so we still have to build world.. in spite of human nature.. human nature...? or human illness/disease... ie: we need detox.. and to do this in sync.. ie: leapfrog.. then we’ll be fine.. 24 min – democracty – you don’t change rules of society until more than half want that change... requires enormous pressure form 25-40% to get change to happen...that’s the demo process... if you get smaller #’s to change.. not a represented democracy.. 25 min – in areas where voters care.. they have no problem controlling political parties... ie: gun control in u.s. no problem keeping gun control where they want it.. whoa.. what..? 26 min – really big pressure groups (guns/abortion) .. bigger than health care... climate.... what you’re dealing with here is apathy... 28 min – americans shocked by wealth distrib graphs.. shocked by how much on top... then if going to take money to distribute... they’re not for that... 29 min – if global look – if you make 35000 a year.. you’re part of 1% 32 min – very easy to do basic income with blockchain.. and easy to experiment with it on blockchain... quite in favor of blockchain as a prototype for radical changes in social policy.. allows all for/against to look at same data set to make future decisions... 34 min – iceland.. basic income tied to identity number... not used for identity but for convenience... whether would make better society.. now sure.. 1\ redistributed wealth hasn’t worked.. 2\ redistributed power (bi doesn’t change power.. those in power just change rules) .. i think universal basic income.. but i think will create other problems.. 37 min – on complexity becoming way more complex than it needs to be 39 min – smart contracts – as alter to lawyer capitalism.. cheaper.. more efficient.. et al.... 70-80% of disputes... resolving huge percentage of current law suits 42 min – cypher punk – back to 1970s – 90s pgp for privacy... struggle for legitimacy then washes out with 9 11... national security state going crazy... no one considers relevant except assange... snowden is where cypher finally big govt in a way that mattered.. showing govt as police state... and now repair... 47 min – why pgp such a fundamental invention... it’s really subtle.. throughout history only way to prove you knew/had a secret was to tell what it was.. one way around it.. ie: scientists making prediction... but to ridiculous to say.. but if came to fruition later.. wanted to knew when came up with it.. like a primitive form of a hash function.. a way of dating your hunches... 49 min – there’s always been use inside frameworks... economy turns into culture.. spending is speech... and protected by free speech rights... whole things in freefall 52 min – meta structures.. the tools --- Continues in https://guptaoption.com/texts/172-4.md (part 4 of 8). 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