# vinay gupta | be you. (part 2 of 8)

> One source from the archive of Vinay Gupta's work at guptaoption.com, as plain text for AI agents: [172], part 2 of 8. Vinay Gupta, exponential humanitarian. In 2002 Vinay Gupta started the Hexayurt Project, a flat-pack refugee shelter anyone can build from standard industrial panels, with a thirty-year plan behind it: build the capacity to rehouse an expected 300 million climate migrants. Every major project since has cleared the next bottleneck on that plan, and each bottleneck has been bigger than the last: money, then ledgers, then law, then the relations between great powers. Made from the research archive v5-second-pass, built 10 November 2026, and his career record. The map of the whole archive is https://guptaoption.com/llms.txt, and any source [id] is at https://guptaoption.com/texts/<id>.md. This file's connections are below, then his passages.

## Where this source sits

- Source: document (Web page), 2014-05-22 (publication data), https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/. Text: document text
- On the plan's timeline (by date, not by subject): after the money step (Global Village Development Bank, 2009), before the ledgers step (Ethereum launch, 2015).
- How it fits the plan (the research build's reading): Third-party digest of his talks; index into the plan's ideas.
- Career works it belongs to:
  - Hexayurt (2002): A public-domain disaster shelter made from whole 4x8 building panels with one diagonal cut.
  - Laziness, Impatience and Hubris (2011): Talk at c-base, Berlin: Larry Wall's three virtues of a programmer applied to building, by a hackitect.
  - A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine (2014): His "very conservative vision" for global change: six or maybe eight machines everyone on earth should... (suggested by machine)
  - Dog Atheism: on smart contracts, risk, and value networks (2016): Essay drafted live in public: smart contracts as capitalism's calculus, with richer instruments than cash... (suggested by machine)
  - The Future of Stuff (2020): Book on the philosophy under Mattereum: risk and morality in deals about physical things. (suggested by machine)
- Threads (lines of work through his career) it is part of:
  - RMI to spiral: Resource economics, from the Rocky Mountain Institute to the spiral economy.
  - STAR-TIDES: The National Defense University project and the papers around it.
  - fiction draws on: The work that fed the fiction.
  - hexayurt builds: Hexayurt variants, many designed and built by the community.
  - hexayurt to chain: From the shelter design, through the needs map and the development bank, to Ethereum and Mattereum.
  - nuclear / panflu: Pandemic, evacuation and rehousing plans.
- Ideas developed here: 30-year plan (Hexayurt; target revised upward, now 300 million)
- Topics: Tweets & captured social feeds (39%)
- Distinctive terms here, against the whole archive: Leashless (238 here; 23 sources in all, earliest dated 2009, 1 undated); programmer capitalism (4 here; 2 sources in all, earliest dated 2014); basic income (11 here; 21 sources in all, earliest dated 2014); interoperability (9 here; 17 sources in all, earliest dated 2009); ecocide (4 here; 3 sources in all, earliest dated 2010); basic needs (8 here; 15 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 2 undated); contracts (49 here; 147 sources in all, earliest dated 2006, 3 undated); equity crowdfunding (7 here; 14 sources in all, earliest dated 2014); smart contracts (31 here; 110 sources in all, earliest dated 2014, 2 undated); Mother of Hydrogen (4 here; 5 sources in all, earliest dated 2012)
- The earliest dated source in this archive for (undated sources may be earlier): Mattereum; smart contracts; tokenization; Silicon Valley; Shatner; ICO; Internet of Agreements; cypherpunk; collectibles; DAO
- Importance: core-text score 0.26 (1.00 is the top), number 307 of the 729 sources it scored, the research build's measure of substance, importance and innovation
- Related sources:
  - [752] [Vinay Gupta: The Cities That Will Walk Away (2019)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/752.md): same career work: Hexayurt
  - [711] [Vinay Gupta – Hexayurts, Distributed Infrastructure, and... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/711.md): same career work: Hexayurt
- On the same works, just before: [698] [Vinay Gupta - Hexayurt Project - End Homelessness |... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/698.md); [700] [Vinay Gupta - Basic Income | London Real (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/700.md); [316] [Vinay Gupta - Maker Faire UK - Newcastle 2014 (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/316.md)
- On the same works, just after: [73] [A little insight into the Gupta Doctrine | The... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/73.md); [315] [Three Bureaucracies of Sharing: Owners, Managers and... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/315.md); [314] [EMF2014 hexayurt talk Hexayurts, Distributed... (2014)](https://guptaoption.com/texts/314.md)

## Reading it

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Cite as: vinay gupta | be you., document, 2014-05-22, https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/; in Vinay Gupta's archive at guptaoption.com, source [172], https://guptaoption.com/texts/172.md.

## Passages, part 2 of 8
[passage 14](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) worrying about anything changes how i do things.. increases rather than reduces stress.. (not so in georgia) – london taxi drivers have to do the knowledge, uni degree, to memo the streets.. perfect example of industry that is remaining irrational.. and still have plenty of fight in them... but in last 6 mos i’ve had to start correcting cab drivers.. using my phone.. so gradually knowledge base being eroded.. 47 min – the industry remaining irrational in face of incoming tech ... phase 1 – pretending not happening; phase 2 – losing jobs 49 min – on wanting to help out taxi cabs.. because want to keep them.. 50 min – crossbow capable going through armor – socially disruptive.. so being a knight not so great anymore 53 min – on smart contracts – i first heard of in 1999 – ignored bitcoin – just a currency – asked myself – am i the kind of person that buys my money then sells to greater fools. so no. and then ethereum.. once you have smart contracts you can build better structures 57 min – enormous complexity/infrastructure.. scripted on top – weinberger ‘s.. scripting is power .. clue train et al 1:02 – mapping these gradients of tech – next big job. the psych and political position.. where if ie: your tech is controlled by others.. what your limits of stepping in are.. __________ _____________ – — refugee camps _____________ @leashless – as predicted.. Bitnation Registers First Refugees on the Blockchain http://t.co/fMzrVhhT9a Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/TheAnalytic/status/645713581720272896 The blockchain-based Bitnation project has been touted as “ Governance 2.0 .” Anyone can record births, marriages, deaths, property contract and more on the blockchain using a unique “signature” to identify individuals. Therefore, intermediary officials such as civil-law notaries are made obsolete by the blockchain, on which transactions are processed and recorded. V – why do we need to do that..? ____________ V’s tweet on joining competition.. sad day ____________ oct 2015 – State of the Net 2015 @petrakramer “We’ve never had enough jobs for 7.3 billion people. Unemployment is the natural and basic state for man” @ leashless youtube.com/watch?v=a8b-bA... http://eventifier.com/event/sotn15/ vinay starting at 2:50 here is just vinay (may have to go back to above for panel): B is world’s 3rd oldest profession (prostitution, politics, B) .. particularly: B’s that handle resource allocation for our society.. automating w/in society necessary for future progress the thesis is radical so the delivery should be conservative.. bureaucrats and blockchains problems in society tech creating economics creating culture.. problem of databases talking to other databases has never been solve..database never intended to interoperate.. databases store what org considers fact. on network – everything we hear on the network is hearsay/gossip.. taking external stuff (from somebody else’s world model) that into your org is like getting a brain transplant than learning something. result: even in networked society.. all info in silos of people that won’t talk to each other.. ie: when you move house.. you have to re address each

[passage 15](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) on network – everything we hear on the network is hearsay/gossip.. taking external stuff (from somebody else’s world model) that into your org is like getting a brain transplant than learning something. result: even in networked society.. all info in silos of people that won’t talk to each other.. ie: when you move house.. you have to re address each one.. inputting same data over and over again.. entirely tech artifact... doesn’t kill anybody.. but sign of deep disfunction blockchain that underlies bitcoin simply a database that works like a network.. or network that works like database.. proves that it works.. everyone happy with it.. except banks... one project that came about: ethereum with the smart contract. blockchain ensures everyone sees same piece of software.. if software inside blockchain.. what comes out is consensus of what software does... so computation on societal level.. rather than individual asking you to trust them... genuinely democratic software. .. confidence across whole of society this is new – old model/before it was software runs in silo – people running silo tell you what software says. in open source.. modified a bit.. if computer said no.. could examine source code .. still have issues around security/trust about hardware et al... so this is new stuff: notion that entire society can participate/audit.. what is a blockchain 70s: databases 90s: networks network/database interop problems blockchains good networked databases smart contracts store software in blockchains what is a bureaucrat an imperial tax collector works for the people i modern democracy/socialism but B=imperialsm never been repurposed for democracy... incentive for tearing down B structure w/o taking down society there is on B who works for you – agency problem what is transparency law you can read open sessions in court name who made decisions (always systems decision... no one has to get fired) public analysis of fact learning changes decisions (so need mechanism that adapts) what are our options blockchain basic income identify each citizen transparent payments transparent spending we could fully understand how people use basic incom radical econ ish (16 min in shorter) this is a jump – sci fi ish to see what you think leapfrogging vital 3:10 (15 min in shorter) – can it really be that easy... try basic income at whole of society level.. indeed.. something not yet tried.. but need a bit more.. or we won’t really see us.. our potential. ie: deep/simple/open: 3 ship ables (17 min in shorter) – take new tech – implement ie: basic income on top of laboratory ie: blockchain.. code literally is the law.. connected adjacency ness (22 min ) on tempo of things sync ness via leap frog 3:14 (24 min in shorter) – lacking ability to test new things in society... silicon valley artificial islands.. to experiment w new forms of govt... could find something that works better.. but problem... how to get land et al.. and who watches the watchmen.. holocracy law ness 3:15 (25 min) – i’d love to see the experiment

[passage 16](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) via leap frog 3:14 (24 min in shorter) – lacking ability to test new things in society... silicon valley artificial islands.. to experiment w new forms of govt... could find something that works better.. but problem... how to get land et al.. and who watches the watchmen.. holocracy law ness 3:15 (25 min) – i’d love to see the experiment tried.. but i think it’s quit risky.. we can’t solve problems quickly if have to establish new nation state every time.. et al what i like idea that we could do lots of experimental stuff inside democracy by using transparency tech (blockchain) to de risk experiments in govt.. fundamental transparency breakthrough... ability to document for future generations... experimental governance – we clearly need it .. ability to turn off easily if doesn’t work we have to get better at learning inside democracies.. govern ment et al.. self-organizing ness (26 min ) – blockchain tech an inherently useful part of learning w/in democracies... simply about transparency...something w/any political persuasion can apply.. or..? better at everyday life.. 3:18 – (27 min ) experimental govt largely de risked and neutral because of transparency aspect start of panel: 3:19 – euan semple facilitating panel – lee bryant – on mistake to be anti-company.. but that phase is gone and we are struggling to see relevance of institutions/companies 3:23 – david orban – on organizations vs organisms... on ceasing to exist as we were before ... ie: obama pledging to close guantanamo and 8 yrs later.. most poweful human on planet can not close it.. what is the higher authority he appeals to..? B the systsem... 3:26 – so we’re waiting for someone to come up with new story everyone will believe in.. then we’ll all flip over – Vinay – we’ve tried collective intelligence for a long time.. and not working.. linking wikipedia/linux back to founder... we’ve restored competition in a post democratic norm 3:28 – on having fundamentally changed human nature 3:29 – oh my david orban – when we had muscle energy – we had to have slaves.. solar energy is de centralizing 3:30 – the attraction of not having another ism/ is inviting – euan 3:30 – there are no good ideologies today.. they are all damaging.. ie: even inequality... result in tyranny.. lee bryant.. basic mechanics of evolution/competition/free-market-econ is actually pretty good. – when not subject to competition anymore... you don’t evolve/improve.. oh my. 3:32 – is there such a thing as a gentle revolution in this.. can we incrementally move toward that future – Euan https://twitter.com/euan ie: leapfrog a gentle revolution 3:35 – david – on society not being able to retrain every month.. so let’s do it everyday .. no prep.. life.. 3:37 – we’ve never had enough jobs for 7.3 bill people. unemployment is the natural/perm condition of man – Vinay – we only produce illusion of employment by pulling 25% of world’s resources into 5% of world’s population.. work et al 3:38 – do we find

[passage 17](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) able to retrain every month.. so let’s do it everyday .. no prep.. life.. 3:37 – we’ve never had enough jobs for 7.3 bill people. unemployment is the natural/perm condition of man – Vinay – we only produce illusion of employment by pulling 25% of world’s resources into 5% of world’s population.. work et al 3:38 – do we find whole new different ways to add value to each other – Euan 3:39 – why do we even need to add value to each other.. why can’t we just exist.. the notion people need to be working/generating value is all colonialism – work is not the natural condition of man – Vinay 3:39 – asking lee about re humanizing work – euan – i like to work – lee.. money is consequence.. not purpose... money totally irrelevant.. david 3:42 – the humanizing work thing...lee – for the people that now have to work.. to send kids to good schools et al oh my. 3:44 – lee on google’s change from don’t be evil to don’t disobey the law 3:46 – on pat kane ‘s thinking on play – vinay 3:51 – audience: money as convention is major obstacle.. if get rid of concept of money 3:51 – vinay’s answer: history (rather than numbers in money) that are carried in a thing.. if you carry more info/richness.. money becomes irrelevant... doesn’t get you away from scarcity.. but a more sophisticated map of what we lack.. self-talk as data ness... 3:54 lee on answering.. will this work out – he says – of course.. the amount of freedom we have compared to 100 yrs ago – we’re having fun.. there some we can solve, ie: some of the inequality ones.. this is all going to be fine, don’t worry about it.... whoa. what about the rest of the world.. __________ right not not seeing blockchain talk on v’s page.. might need to go to blockchain page.. one he tweeted as best talk so far.. did history...1\crypto 2\database 3\network and got me to interoperability and io dance ness.. so right here i’m modeling the need for some type of blockchain ness to facilitate/scrap for me (and the world) from self-talk to wikipedia/wp or whatever.. to organize/gather our stigmergy ness. and to do that for 7 billion plus people.. we need to make so many other things (time wasters) irrelevant, ie: money, transaction, measurement, property, security, .. ___________ io dance gupta roadblock law : ___________ I am absolutely convinced I am asking the wrong question at the wrong level of generality about some fundamental things. How to change that? Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/662245901474353152 ignore shiny . talk to yourself . we need you . to be you. enough . __________ oct 2015 https://medium.com/@ConsenSys/programmable-blockchains-in-context-ethereum-s-future-cd8451eb421e#.iwk6528sk By the end of this article, you’re going to understand blockchains in general (and Ethereum, a next-generation blockchain platform, in particular) well enough to decide what they mean to your life. [..] As is so often the case, to understand the present,

[passage 18](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) . talk to yourself . we need you . to be you. enough . __________ oct 2015 https://medium.com/@ConsenSys/programmable-blockchains-in-context-ethereum-s-future-cd8451eb421e#.iwk6528sk By the end of this article, you’re going to understand blockchains in general (and Ethereum, a next-generation blockchain platform, in particular) well enough to decide what they mean to your life. [..] As is so often the case, to understand the present, we have to start in the past: blockchains are the third act of the play, and we are just at the beginning of that third act. So we must recap. [..] 1\ The actual blockchain story starts in the 1970s when the database as we currently know it was created: the relational model, SQL, big racks of spinning tape drives, all of that stuff. [..] Years passed as people struggled to get the real world into databases using knowledge management, the semantic web, and many other abstractions. Not everything fit, but we ran society on these tools anyway. The things which did not fit cleanly in databases got marginalized, and life went on. Once in awhile a technical counter-current would take hold and try to push back on the tyranny of the database, but the general trend held firm: if it does not fit in the database, it does not exist. [..] We live in these boxes, as pervasive as oxygen, and as inflexible as punched cards. [..] 2\ The second act is started by the arrival of Tim Berners-Lee and the advent of the web. It actually starts just a hair before his arrival. In the late 1980s and early 1990s we get serious about computer networking. Protocols like Telnet, Gopher, Usenet and Email itself provide a user interface to the spanning arcs of the early internet, but it’s not until the 1990s we get mass adoption of networked computers, leading incrementally to me typing this on Google Docs, and you reading it in a web browser. [..] But the databases and the networks never really learn to get on. The Big Iron in the machine rooms and the myriads of tiny little personal computers scattered over the internet like dew on a cobweb could not find a common world-model which allowed them to interoperate smoothly. ... the hard problem is getting databases working together, invisibly, for our benefit, or getting the databases to interact smoothly with processes running on our own laptops. io dance ness Those technical problems are usually masked by bureaucracy, but we experience their impact every single day of our lives. [..] There’s no sense of using real computers to do things, only computers abused as expensive paper simulators. Although in theory information could just flow from one database to another with your permission, in practice the technical costs of connecting databases are huge, and your computer doesn’t store your data so it can do all this work for you. Instead it’s just something you fill in forms on. Why are we under-utilizing all this potential so badly? www ness [..] The answer, as always,

[passage 19](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) flow from one database to another with your permission, in practice the technical costs of connecting databases are huge, and your computer doesn’t store your data so it can do all this work for you. Instead it’s just something you fill in forms on. Why are we under-utilizing all this potential so badly? www ness [..] The answer, as always, is in our own heads. The organizational assumptions about the world which are baked into computer systems are almost impossible to translate. The human factors — the mindsets which generate the software — don’t fit together. Each enterprise builds their computer system in their own image, and these images disagree about what is vital and what is incidental, and truth does not flow between them easily. When we need to translate from one world model to another, we put humans in the process, and we’re back to processes which mirror filling in paper forms rather than genuinely digital cooperation. [..] it all boils down to mindset in the end. Although it looks like ones and zeros, software “architects” are swinging around budgets you could use to build a skyscraper, and changing something late into a project like that has similar costs to tearing down a half-made building. Rows upon rows upon rows of expensive engineers throwing away months (or years) of work: the software freezes in place, and the world moves on. Everything is always slightly broken. Over and over again, we go back to paper and metaphors from the age of paper because we cannot get the software right, and the core to that problem is that we managed to network the computers in the 1990s, but we never did figure out how to really network the databases and get them all working together. There are three classic models for how people try and get their networks and databases working together smoothly. First Paradigm: the diverse peers model – directly connect machines together, and work out the lumps as you go. all ie’s financial? 2nd: Hub and Spoke: meet the new boss – cut through the exponential (well, quadratic) complexity of writing software to directly connect peers, and simply put somebody in charge. 3rd: Protocols — if you can find them – an idea so good that it gets people to stop arguing about how to do things, and just get on with it and do them. when the protocol gambit works, what’s created is huge genuine wealth — not money, but actual wealth — as the world is improved by things that just work together nicely. Of course, SOAP and JSON-RPC and all the rest aspire to support the formation of protocols, or even to be protocols, but the definitional semantics of each field of endeavor tend to create an inherent complexity which leads back towards hub and spoke or other models. Blockchains — a fourth way? – an alternative to getting databases synchronized by printing out wads of paper and walking it around. [..] Bitcoin took the

[passage 20](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) the formation of protocols, or even to be protocols, but the definitional semantics of each field of endeavor tend to create an inherent complexity which leads back towards hub and spoke or other models. Blockchains — a fourth way? – an alternative to getting databases synchronized by printing out wads of paper and walking it around. [..] Bitcoin took the paper out of that system, and replaced it with a stable agreement (“consensus”) between all the computers in the bitcoin network about the current value of all the accounts involved in a transaction. It did this with a genuinely protocol-style solution: there’s no middleman extracting rents, and no exponential system complexity from a myriad of different connectors. The blockchain architecture is essentially a protocol which works as well as hub-and-spoke for getting things done, but without the liability of a trusted third party in the center which might choose to extract economic rents. This is really a good, good thing. [[.] We call it “distributed consensus” but that’s just a fancy way of saying that everybody agrees, in the end, about what truth (in your bank balance, in your contracts) is. Ok, so what about Ethereum? “beyond the paper metaphor” approach to getting databases to work together even further than bitcoin. Rather than replacing cash, Ethereum presents a new model, a fourth way. You push the data into Ethereum, it’s bound permanently in public storage (the “blockchain”). All the organizations that need to access that information — from your cousin to your government — can see it. Ethereum seeks to replace all the other places where you have to fill in forms to get computers to work together. [..] smart contracts are one of the most powerful aspects of the Ethereum system [..] Crowdfunding potentially gives us access to risk capital backed by deep technical intelligence, and invested to create real political change. If, say, Elon Musk could access the capital reserves of everybody who believes in what he is doing, painlessly selling (say) shares in a future Mars City, would that be good or bad for the future of humanity? huge assumption – that we are currently acting like natural human beings.. ie: many might follow shiny mars ness.. when it’s not really what they want.. Building the mechanisms to enable this kind of mass collective action might be critical to our future. (e.g. See Coase’s Blockchain youtube video ) this video is noted/highlights above – fintech conf.. [..] Ethereum offers is a “smart contract platform” which takes a lot of that expensive, difficult stuff and automates it. [..] So what do we mean by world computer? In essence, Ethereum simulates a perfect machine — a thing which could never exist in nature because of the laws of physics, but which can be simulated by a large enough computer network. The network’s size isn’t there to produce the fastest possible computer (although that may come later with blockchain scaling) but to produce a universal computer which is accessible from

[passage 21](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) Ethereum simulates a perfect machine — a thing which could never exist in nature because of the laws of physics, but which can be simulated by a large enough computer network. The network’s size isn’t there to produce the fastest possible computer (although that may come later with blockchain scaling) but to produce a universal computer which is accessible from anywhere by anybody, and (critically!) which always gives the same results to everybody. It’s a global resource which stores answers and cannot be subverted, denied or censored (See From Cyperpunks to Blockchains video on youtube). [..] Yes, fraud is still possible, at the edge of the digitial, but many kinds of outright banditry are likely to simply die out: you can check the blockchain and find out if the house has been sold twice, for example. Who really owns this bridge in Brooklyn? What happens if this loan defaults? All there, as clear as crystal, in a single shared global blockchain. That’s the plan, anyway. still so financial focused.. no? _________ at devcon1 – day 5 Vinay starts at 7:55 on .. back in the day.. 90s crypto era.. we were as excited about gpg being the tool to change the world.. like people are with blockchain now.. right up until 9/11 7:58 – on how many .. even at devcon – are not encrypting.. after 20 yrs in.. first platform problem.. no really clear model of how one would do investment of public goods.. if you can’t fund public works in a collab way.. don’t have enough infrastructure.. and end up inside regulatory environment hostile to what people want to build.. 8:01 – 1\ problem didn’t keep funding going.. classic way govt solved is thru taxation.. but for us...we have to keep crowdfunding astra – taxation as crowd sourcing.. we needed volunteer taxation... for public works ethereum – don’t yet have institutional consciousness of ordinary people that ...continue to inject money 2\ identity infrastructure... everyone working on identity projects that don’t know of each other.. so many working on it.. and still not there 8:09 – 2 problems: 1\ when trust systems began to corrode we didn’t rebuild 2\ solution to corp world ie: https.. but not one for individual 8:11 – on repeat.. bunch of guys get together.. hack solution good enough for industrial... but not enough business model to maintain funding... and/or not just run out of money but run out of smart.. can you see parallels to what we’re doing now..? yes.. so how do we make sure we don’t spike funding at beginning then run out.. if you don’t figure out how to pay for re figuration re invention of tools.. you lose trust.. user interface.. on security sucks.. usually the security model is what sucks.. gpg – can’t attribute key to a person.. so 2 step mapping problem... building interface for that a nightmare.. can’t fix security at user interface level.. got to be fixed at fundamental level.. ps in the open 3\ generative

[passage 22](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) re figuration re invention of tools.. you lose trust.. user interface.. on security sucks.. usually the security model is what sucks.. gpg – can’t attribute key to a person.. so 2 step mapping problem... building interface for that a nightmare.. can’t fix security at user interface level.. got to be fixed at fundamental level.. ps in the open 3\ generative complexity – cyber punk vision was that 1-1 was going to result in magical ability to construct complex social structures that would eventually rise to being institutions... but doesn’t work that way.. any degree of complexity.. ends up being meta structures on top of (original) structure.. no good tools for handling meta complexity... 8:19 – what we have in ethereum is an amazing set of mega functions.. ie: swiss army light saber.. we’ve got the ability to generate in the form of meta structures.. which should pay for public works necessary to build the rest of the machinery.. tax/tithe like payments... put money in hands of people that will spend lives rebuilding tools.. or – what if most of that work we determine as irrelevant .. at least lighten this load.. no? 8:21 – would be simple if utility needed was funded by public works.. what we’d like is to chip at these things over time and build more and more interesting things .. and can only do that if funding is ongoing as public works for people working on it... we understand that keeping these systems running is about ongoing innovation.. coop.. if we build this road to future end up needing systems that look like local govt... ie: we have a bug in this.. who fix it; how to keep paying everyone cyber punks had nothing between open source and salary... what bitcoin created was an enormous spike of innovation... profit from that turned into ethereum.. if we can use this wonderful meta machinery we have... a world in which we have non-state public goods.. & more efficient to do what state does.. 8:25 – when i say social contract.. i don’t necessarily mean smart contract. .. a conscious willingness to put back into the game.. how to get into a position that people understand.. better world is possible and that these tools are a like to ie: wikipedia... a global public work/good 8:28 – q: how to drive global adoption.. a: now doubling every 3 months.. i think we’re worrying too much about adoption.. and not enough about fundamental value... we’re basically getting adoption like a house is burning.. once there are usable dapps.. 8:29 – q: who gets to direct where 1% is gathered and what’s done with it.. a: Vitalik – are we a democracy or what ... how to do these things 8:31 – guest – musician – Imogen Heap – realizing blockchain could get money to my wallet instantly.. ie: now i have to take out loans until payment... how to sustain the artists of the future.. in mycelia... spore is a smart

[passage 23](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) done with it.. a: Vitalik – are we a democracy or what ... how to do these things 8:31 – guest – musician – Imogen Heap – realizing blockchain could get money to my wallet instantly.. ie: now i have to take out loans until payment... how to sustain the artists of the future.. in mycelia... spore is a smart contract.... people can be invested in you... ie: i would love to say.. anyone under 16 can have my music free on any platform... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imogen_Heap https://twitter.com/imogenheap 8:44 – Vitalik closing out.. saying how the diversity aspect of the community has changed so much since last year.. and that the community is his favorite part of the whole thing.. ______ “I am excited precisely because we do not know what we have created” – @ leashless shines brilliant with this statement. “the technology has gotten far, far ahead of our ability to explain or communicate the technology” – @ leashless ‘ take on @ ethereumproject io dance ness ______ nov 2015 leashless 11/26/15 5:31 AM I have a cold. I am burned out and grumpy. I am doing some of the best work of my career, smoothing adoption of radical technologies. Here is my talk on blockchains from the Future Cities Catapult https:// twitter.com/leashless/stat us/669660313852223489?s=09 ... second half on machine magic! 11/26/15 6:05 AM @bercobeute So I get as far as databases -> blockchains here twitter.com/leashless/stat... I just need to tack on the smart contract / worldputer __________ dec 2015 @leashless hello! would love to talk to you about maybe speaking at ted next year ... what’s the best contact? thanks thanks, helen Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/HelenWalters/status/672080882778447873 __________ What holds you together through enlightened states is Unfinished Business. It provides the (arbitrary) meaning for a Youness to exist around Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/673519712291168256 courage of absurdity – john holloway – et al ___________ vinay on identity : dec 2015 Another thousand words on the end of the Identity piece https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pfwCTsY08HMrwijOhDRlgraGewoS_g3nQsdnE4LjopQ/edit# (at the end, the Biometrics and Blockchains section) The piece is turning into a right old grind, but I feel that when all is said and done it will really help clarify the space and help things The case that I’m going to make is that the identity debate is magnetically drawn to two opposing poles: Humans as things identified by their bodies, vs Humans as intangible, ever-shifting narrative beings. Our challenge, in creating software to enable people to use or manifest their identity,.. so www ness..imagining something like blockchain (only because vinay is *saying it’s the means to get databases and networks to dance ) used as a facilitator/scraper of data (from self-talk as data ) to pool on some.... type... platform ish.. app/chip ness On one hand, a world in which people are things and are serialized and tracked like all other things. On the other hand, a liquid world in which defrauding Grandma on eBay never, ever feeds back to a person’s dating profile, even after convictions. on the other

[passage 24](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) self-talk as data ) to pool on some.... type... platform ish.. app/chip ness On one hand, a world in which people are things and are serialized and tracked like all other things. On the other hand, a liquid world in which defrauding Grandma on eBay never, ever feeds back to a person’s dating profile, even after convictions. on the other hand.. everyone so busydoing something else and grounded by everyone ness... ie: have to have everyone.... to have ps in the open and io dance ness. deeper w/.. in the city. as the day. .. ie: alex getting me to try out a placebo chip ness... otherwise agenda is baked in.. There is something in the whole which is beyond description. [..] p4 If we are, in some sense, our relationships, and our relationships (at least some of them) only exist on Facebook, then something very odd indeed is happening to our identity. add note here on doc: perhaps a magnification of what’s been going on for years..no? wilde et at – most people are other people. so not only have we gotten to a grave not-us ness.. most things we see as problems (that we then spend our days pre-figuring/pre-cautioning) are a result of that. perhaps we keep missing that instead.. they could be counted as irrelevant. so thinkg.. way beyond fb.. ie: science of people in schools ness.. perpetuate /ing not us ness. in desperate need of detox.. where we can be still enough to hear/be ourselves.. not because of selfishness.. because that’s what the world needs most. each one of us matters to one ness.. so perhaps.. again.. self-talk as data .. via some app/chip is our mechanism simple enough .. p 6 I want to posit that there is simply no solution to these questions without building out a really extensive new theory of identity , and that such a theory is going to have to compromise with the philosophical abyss presented by the gap between who we think and feel we are, and the identities that the world generates for us on a more-or-less ad-hoc basis, without our say so or so much as a by-your-leave other than, perhaps, accepting an occasional EULA. yes. let’s. systemic change... leap frog even.. to a nother way to live. p 10 You could even argue that the IP address is providing much the same kind of accountability. But, in practice, there are so many users and so few administrators, and such unwillingness to go after abuse that – unless the matter is criminal, and in many cases, even if it is criminal – there’s simply nobody to go to. perhaps why it won’t work unless it’s everyone.. and unless everyone is free to do something else ... p 14 We cannot actually manage the reputation databases all that well – scandal, hearsay and gossip penetrate into people’s record far too easily – and if these systems have something resembling the weight of law (at least common law) in

[passage 25](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) to. perhaps why it won’t work unless it’s everyone.. and unless everyone is free to do something else ... p 14 We cannot actually manage the reputation databases all that well – scandal, hearsay and gossip penetrate into people’s record far too easily – and if these systems have something resembling the weight of law (at least common law) in everyday life, there are clearly huge consequences to even the occasional accidental false report, or intentional and malicious contamination of the history data. The better able we are able to identify people, the more certain we must be that the identity databases which back up those conclusions are flawless. I don’t think that’s going to be an easy job at all. why are we identifying people.. seems just for justice/punishment.. et al... ie: most of doc seems to be focused on how to take care of badness/bad guys.. well what if we get to the root of that instead... call bad/ness irrelevant .. then perhaps... not so hard.. I strongly suspect that the paradoxical nature of DNA – as an identifier, but also as deep insight into the biology and possibly psychology of the person identified – is going to be a defining quandary of the 21st century. As our tools rapidly evolve to allow us to use DNA, can business, government and society keep up and create countervailing protections and indirections, keeping us safe from the transparent nature of at least some of our genes? again – ps in the open ness. what if business, govt .. society... is totally not us. what if we make them irrelevant.. make privacy.. security.. irrelevant. p 15 The same kind of biometric hashing can be applied to fingerprints, iris scans and various other kinds of measurements of the body, with differing degrees of success, confidence and precision. getting us back to beginning... The case that I’m going to make is that the identity debate is magnetically drawn to two opposing poles: Humans as things identified by their bodies, vs Humans as intangible, ever-shifting narrative beings. p 18 The “public profile on a blockchain” model just does not seem to have the kinds of properties we want our societies to have: it’s the wrong kind of transparency. There’s an essay at least this length on different kinds of transparency. It’s probably already been written by somebody who sees the world mainly through that lens: perhaps we’re looking for the wrong thing.. perhaps we look instead to what we could be doing with our day.. all of us. and trust that. so that we don’t have to pre-figure, pre-plan, pre-caution,... our days away.. p 20 I would say, rather, that we need to shun computer systems that make us think such things are needed. indeed. _ _ tweets (i picked out) from a stream dec 21 Creative distress is distressing. The identity piece I’ve been working on is driving me mad. I’ve got 2 conclusions docs.google.com/document/d/1pf Reification is a complex word: compare en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reificati... to

[passage 26](https://redefineschool.com/vinay-gupta/) 20 I would say, rather, that we need to shun computer systems that make us think such things are needed. indeed. _ _ tweets (i picked out) from a stream dec 21 Creative distress is distressing. The identity piece I’ve been working on is driving me mad. I’ve got 2 conclusions docs.google.com/document/d/1pf Reification is a complex word: compare en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reificati... to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reificati... But it is super important in the identity debate So the identity we want in blockchain land is a history of my actions, and the continuation of this record, not a third party profile of me. Obviously my own account of my actions must be partial: I am a subjective entity But partial-and-proven is stronger than partial-and-passing But this is only fully compelling in an environment where speech acts are performative and need nobody to validate them. self-talk as data . never provable. but closer than we are now.. because everyone would be more themself from doing something else .. as the day . trust that that’s enough . [ avedon truth law ] idiosyncratic jargon .. keeping those not really interested in you.. from messing with you.. but again.. that’s minimal if taken w/in game plan of a nother way.. ___ dna as a template of our being... in Siddhartha ‘s – emperor of maladies.. perhaps our dna’s are cancerous enough that we need to create a rna – artificial/augmented identity.. detox \ing us back to us.. facilitating the chaos of getting us back to natrualness... back to self-organizing ness ____ The second is that I’m wired for very tight relationships with quite small numbers of people. I need to see inside their heads to trust them self-talk as data .. culture of trust. .. back from the day care centers.. _______ “Maybe 10% of the people in our society were born from a database match.” https://t.co/Nc2lEe4dcg So yes it really does matter how it works! Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/leashless/status/681825657446363136 dec 2015 lecture – data in 21st cent the way we decide something.. as an individual or a society... we could call it a mechanism for choosing things.. thinking of zittrain at 41 min (on talk with frank) – what kind of human has qualifications to decide... ie: mechanisms.. auction, democracy, ... we often get a mechanism the reify it.. forget we made a decision to get here.. and just assume ie: democracy is a 4 yr cycle... mechanism we forget were mechanisms... fashions in data: fast data (hft); big data (now); immutable data (tomorrow) 6 min – how big does it have to be to be big data... ie: if only a few orgs can handle it.. and takes lots of money... largely.. an elite thing... something others do... immutable data – problematic... because anyone can play but no one understands.. super complicated.. but all complexity is hidden... biggest thing... go to internet.. find bitcoin wallet... ? now done a transaction that’s stored for centuries... think: how simple access to that is relative to fast and big 9

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